All Blacks v Japan
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@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
I have just read the regulation change so this is great news for Holland and the All Blacks.
More details, as it was 5 years after 18th birthday. What's changed?
Edit. Oh that's cool, read the article. I guess it won't change plans, he could always play for XV, but he's there in case of injuries in the main squad
@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
I have just read the regulation change so this is great news for Holland and the All Blacks.
More details, as it was 5 years after 18th birthday. What's changed?
Edit. Oh that's cool, read the article. I guess it won't change plans, he could always play for XV, but he's there in case of injuries in the main squad
Can you share the link?
Would he actually be in front of any of our locking options now if he is available for the EOYT tour?
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@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
I have just read the regulation change so this is great news for Holland and the All Blacks.
More details, as it was 5 years after 18th birthday. What's changed?
Edit. Oh that's cool, read the article. I guess it won't change plans, he could always play for XV, but he's there in case of injuries in the main squad
Can you share the link?
Would he actually be in front of any of our locking options now if he is available for the EOYT tour?
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
@Machpants said in ABs Japan:
I have just read the regulation change so this is great news for Holland and the All Blacks.
More details, as it was 5 years after 18th birthday. What's changed?
Edit. Oh that's cool, read the article. I guess it won't change plans, he could always play for XV, but he's there in case of injuries in the main squad
Can you share the link?
Would he actually be in front of any of our locking options now if he is available for the EOYT tour?
From EOYT thread
https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350441206/highlanders-lock-fabian-holland-jumps-all-blacks-frame-after-world-rugby -
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
And I can't believe you're finding reasons to discredit Plummer's SR form. It goes both ways. You're just looking for reasons not to give him a run. Perofeta also had a shocker against the Tahs at 10, possibly the worst performance you'll see from a 10 and single handedly nearly cost us victory. We were also 5-1 with Perofeta, all against poor opposition. Only the Highlanders made the 8 in which we won under Perofeta, who also cost us top spot by missing an easy penalty where we missed out on a BP against the Canes, so it's fair to say that Plummer took his chance at 10.
Not saying Plummer is our long term 10, but fuck, let's at least try him at some stage to see what he's made of? To say just drop him altogether is a bit over the top after 3 mins of test rugby.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback
Yeah that's simply not true.
Cole Forbes was really good at fullback - Blues could have easily ran Perofeta at 10 and Forbes at 15.
Plummer stayed at 10 in the playoffs because he earned it and delivered.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
That's an ice cold take if ever I saw one
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So ...
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It's on a Friday. Did anyone know that ... ?
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Anyone know what time (allblacks.com showing TBC ...)?
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So ...
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It's on a Friday. Did anyone know that ... ?
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Anyone know what time (allblacks.com showing TBC ...)?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Japan:
Nah, it’s on Saturday. Kick-off 6:50pm NZT.
Translation appreciated
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So ...
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It's on a Friday. Did anyone know that ... ?
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Anyone know what time (allblacks.com showing TBC ...)?
@booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:
So ...
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It's on a Friday. Did anyone know that ... ?
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Anyone know what time (allblacks.com showing TBC ...)?
I take it that's the ABs website/app?
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Japan:
Nah, it’s on Saturday. Kick-off 6:50pm NZT.
Translation appreciated
I’m pretty sure it says ‘tell Booboo he fucked up and the rugby is on Saturday, remind him to buy beer and ask the Mrs if they can watch during dinner time.’
I’ll admit that I’m struggling with my translation of whether it is ‘him to buy beer’ or ‘buy beer for gt12’
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:
So ...
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It's on a Friday. Did anyone know that ... ?
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Anyone know what time (allblacks.com showing TBC ...)?
I take it that's the ABs website/app?
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Japan:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:
@Bones website
Jesus fuck
Yup it has not been updated for months, fixtures wise
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
That's an ice cold take if ever I saw one
@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
That's an ice cold take if ever I saw one
Yes it is.
How much rugby has Plummer had in the last 3 months?
2 minutes in Wellington?
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I’m pretty sure it says ‘tell Booboo he fucked up and the rugby is on Saturday, remind him to buy beer and ask the Mrs if they can watch during dinner time.’
I’ll admit that I’m struggling with my translation of whether it is ‘him to buy beer’ or ‘buy beer for gt12’
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Japan:
I’m pretty sure it says ‘tell Booboo he fucked up and the rugby is on Saturday, remind him to buy beer and ask the Mrs if they can watch during dinner time.’
I’ll admit that I’m struggling with my translation of whether it is ‘him to buy beer’ or ‘buy beer for gt12’
Oops, hold on.
Seems where I read booboo is should mean NZR media fuckstick.
Japanese is really hard, I can see why kids give it up.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
That's an ice cold take if ever I saw one
Yes it is.
How much rugby has Plummer had in the last 3 months?
2 minutes in Wellington?
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Japan:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks v Japan:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v Japan:
@pakman said in All Blacks v Japan:
If half AB squad go straight to UK we could see a hybrid like this:
Ofa/Bell/Tosi/Holland/Darry/Paps/Bladder/Sotutu/Roigard/Plummer/Havili/Proctor/Telea/Narewa/Perofeta
Plummer got outplayed by his counterpart in a NPC game on Wednesday against Ta$man. Genuinely shouldn't be near the squad.
More use having Perofeta start there, and maybe someone from the XVs having a go at fullback.
As @Bones said recently, Super Rugby form doesn't matter, but coming in at short notice for an NPC game when he's been away from the Auckland squad all year does?
There have been many other All Blacks who have come into NPC teams in recent weeks and immediately made an impact.
Plummers Super Rugby form was vastly overrated.
He was behind the most dominant forward pack in super rugby that mainly dominated through their pack. Even Plummers kicking percentage wasnt even that great.
Plummer wasn't first choice 10 at the Blues until Perofeta got injured. And he was only picked at 10 in the playoffs because Perofeta had to fill in for the injured Sullivan at fullback. The Blues were 6-1 with Perofeta starting at 10 so they seemed to be fine without Plummer at 10.
He failed to make any impact in the NPC games he has been in since. There is no way Beauden or Dmac walk into an NPC side with no time with the team and don't immediately take control of the team and game when they're playing.
I can't believe we're making excuses for prospective All Blacks not performing at NPC level.
That's an ice cold take if ever I saw one
Yes it is.
How much rugby has Plummer had in the last 3 months?
2 minutes in Wellington?
In terms of his run numbers in SR, the point was he's not a run first 10. I believe Razor is asking too much of DMac to run all the time, and that a good 10 should be able to pass to his midfield and let them go to work. Which Plummer was more likely to do with the Blues' gameplan
