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All Blacks XV 2024

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  • canefanC canefan

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    So,...by my count that's 13 of the Blues starting XV in this year's final that have made the ABs or the AB XV. According to my forecast, Riccitelli has missed out to his team mate Eklund, and Akira has signed in Japan.

    Hoskins got picked!

    So are Razor and Ryan still fluffybunnies, or what?

    Five hours and the silence is deafening, guys! 🙂

    While you ponder all this, some light reading...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

    How many Blues are in the ABs squad?

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    @canefan said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

    So,...by my count that's 13 of the Blues starting XV in this year's final that have made the ABs or the AB XV. According to my forecast, Riccitelli has missed out to his team mate Eklund, and Akira has signed in Japan.

    Hoskins got picked!

    So are Razor and Ryan still fluffybunnies, or what?

    Five hours and the silence is deafening, guys! 🙂

    While you ponder all this, some light reading...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

    How many Blues are in the ABs squad?

    Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

    But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i.

    Beauden, Rieko, Caleb, Mark, Steven

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      Meh, any Crusaders picked is met with anguished banshee wailing these days. Got to say though, Fihaki was from left field and the conservative approach is a bit of a surprize. Like the look of the AB XV, though. Reckon there'll be a few of those names included in the ABs before long.

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      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks XV 2024:

      Meh, any Crusaders picked is met with anguished banshee wailing these days. Got to say though, Fihaki was from left field and the conservative approach is a bit of a surprize. Like the look of the AB XV, though. Reckon there'll be a few of those names included in the ABs before long.

      I agree and was thinking Haig Lakai Sotutu would be a good loosie trio to have a gander at..

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @Frank - Who said I'm too nice to do some trolling! But, there's some posters who deserve it! 🙂

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

        @Frank - Who said I'm too nice to do some trolling! But, there's some posters who deserve it! 🙂

        Giving the best team some second team seats ain't proving any thing. Sotutu starting versus Japan, I will start to change my mind over the coaches narrow mindedness and conservative bullshit - o and Cane and TJ carrrying tackle bags all the rest of the season

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks XV 2024:

          Meh, any Crusaders picked is met with anguished banshee wailing these days. Got to say though, Fihaki was from left field and the conservative approach is a bit of a surprize. Like the look of the AB XV, though. Reckon there'll be a few of those names included in the ABs before long.

          I agree and was thinking Haig Lakai Sotutu would be a good loosie trio to have a gander at..

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          @nostrildamus

          Yeah I was thinking that too.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @canefan said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            So,...by my count that's 13 of the Blues starting XV in this year's final that have made the ABs or the AB XV. According to my forecast, Riccitelli has missed out to his team mate Eklund, and Akira has signed in Japan.

            Hoskins got picked!

            So are Razor and Ryan still fluffybunnies, or what?

            Five hours and the silence is deafening, guys! 🙂

            While you ponder all this, some light reading...

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

            How many Blues are in the ABs squad?

            Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

            But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i.

            Beauden, Rieko, Caleb, Mark, Steven

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

            Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

            But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i

            So 3 forwards and Dalton who has been unsighted for the past how many tests?

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @canefan said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              So,...by my count that's 13 of the Blues starting XV in this year's final that have made the ABs or the AB XV. According to my forecast, Riccitelli has missed out to his team mate Eklund, and Akira has signed in Japan.

              Hoskins got picked!

              So are Razor and Ryan still fluffybunnies, or what?

              Five hours and the silence is deafening, guys! 🙂

              While you ponder all this, some light reading...

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories

              How many Blues are in the ABs squad?

              Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

              But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i.

              Beauden, Rieko, Caleb, Mark, Steven

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              @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

              But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i.

              off the bench (but I wouldn't normally pick him) off the bench (don't blame them, he's been injured, but still), off the bench (unless an emergency) and lastly, sent on another moon landing...while they play Sam Cane, because of his top speed, workrate, excellent tackling technique, turnovers... If he's so good for team morale, make him team manager...

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                I'm not a big DMac basher but we do have a quality backup/reserve talent at 10 issue...

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

                  But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i

                  So 3 forwards and Dalton who has been unsighted for the past how many tests?

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                  Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

                  But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i

                  So 3 forwards and Dalton who has been unsighted for the past how many tests?

                  Dalton started the first tests of the season, so it's a bit hard to argue they wouldn't work with him.

                  The only forward who was probably a bit hard done by was Hoskins - and that was blown into a major conspiracy (there was no way he was making this A team according to some) - which has now pretty much been debunked.

                  Not having a crack at you in the slightest. But there's quite a few in Blues land who have been well over the top.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris-B how many crusaders? The ones that couldn't even make a final...

                    That's them , the ones that stank the joint out all season and still beat both the Chiefs and the Blues.

                    Oh right. Who did they lose to? Beat the finalists and still couldn't make the top 8.... the absence of Blackadder really hit hard.

                    To be honest it did. As did Codie Taylor's sabbatical.

                    When they came back, those two were instrumental in getting the better of the Blues scrum and loosies.

                    But, among the missed were:

                    Williams - tore his hamstring 20 minutes into the first game
                    Taylor - Sabbatical for most of the season
                    Jaeger - gone to Ireland
                    Gallagher - injured for the season
                    Whitelock - retired to Japan
                    SBarrett - injured for most of the season
                    Havili-Talitui - Moana Pacifica
                    Blackadder - injured for most of the season
                    Mo'unga - gone to Japan
                    Burke - injured for most of the season
                    Fainga'anuku - gone to France
                    Goodhue - gone offshore
                    Ennor - Injured all season
                    Nanai - gone somewhere
                    Jordan - injured all season

                    Always going to be a bit of a re-building year.

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                    #363

                    @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Chris-B how many crusaders? The ones that couldn't even make a final...

                    That's them , the ones that stank the joint out all season and still beat both the Chiefs and the Blues.

                    Oh right. Who did they lose to? Beat the finalists and still couldn't make the top 8.... the absence of Blackadder really hit hard.

                    To be honest it did. As did Codie Taylor's sabbatical.

                    When they came back, those two were instrumental in getting the better of the Blues scrum and loosies.

                    But, among the missed were:

                    Williams - tore his hamstring 20 minutes into the first game
                    Taylor - Sabbatical for most of the season
                    Jaeger - gone to Ireland
                    Gallagher - injured for the season
                    Whitelock - retired to Japan
                    SBarrett - injured for most of the season
                    Havili-Talitui - Moana Pacifica
                    Blackadder - injured for most of the season
                    Mo'unga - gone to Japan
                    Burke - injured for most of the season
                    Fainga'anuku - gone to France
                    Goodhue - gone offshore
                    Ennor - Injured all season
                    Nanai - gone somewhere
                    Jordan - injured all season

                    Always going to be a bit of a re-building year.

                    How goods a list like this when every other team goes through something like this every year but it isn’t talked about 😂 it was just the Crusaders turn mate. They’ll be fine. Dont take the bait.

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                    • S SBW1

                      @Crazy-Horse George Bower, a recent change for Ethan De Groot.

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                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      @Crazy-Horse George Bower, a recent change for Ethan De Groot.

                      Source? I see nothing anywhere about this.

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                      • Landers92L Landers92

                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Bones said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                        @Chris-B how many crusaders? The ones that couldn't even make a final...

                        That's them , the ones that stank the joint out all season and still beat both the Chiefs and the Blues.

                        Oh right. Who did they lose to? Beat the finalists and still couldn't make the top 8.... the absence of Blackadder really hit hard.

                        To be honest it did. As did Codie Taylor's sabbatical.

                        When they came back, those two were instrumental in getting the better of the Blues scrum and loosies.

                        But, among the missed were:

                        Williams - tore his hamstring 20 minutes into the first game
                        Taylor - Sabbatical for most of the season
                        Jaeger - gone to Ireland
                        Gallagher - injured for the season
                        Whitelock - retired to Japan
                        SBarrett - injured for most of the season
                        Havili-Talitui - Moana Pacifica
                        Blackadder - injured for most of the season
                        Mo'unga - gone to Japan
                        Burke - injured for most of the season
                        Fainga'anuku - gone to France
                        Goodhue - gone offshore
                        Ennor - Injured all season
                        Nanai - gone somewhere
                        Jordan - injured all season

                        Always going to be a bit of a re-building year.

                        How goods a list like this when every other team goes through something like this every year but it isn’t talked about 😂 it was just the Crusaders turn mate. They’ll be fine. Dont take the bait.

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                        @Landers92 We will be - even with Penney as a coach.

                        But, there's 11 test players in that XV, so I'm a bit sceptical about every other team losing that much every year.

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Frank - Who said I'm too nice to do some trolling! But, there's some posters who deserve it! 🙂

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                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @Frank - Who said I'm too nice to do some trolling! But, there's some posters who deserve it! 🙂

                          Who the hell said you were too nice to troll? Clearly they weren't around for the Hammettuer thread.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @Frank - Who said I'm too nice to do some trolling! But, there's some posters who deserve it! 🙂

                            Who the hell said you were too nice to troll? Clearly they weren't around for the Hammettuer thread.

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                            @Nepia Frank did! 🙂

                            But, occasionally I've got to snarl a bit in case people think I've turned into Cliff Richard!

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                              @Landers92 said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              So are Razor and Ryan still fluffybunnies, or what?

                              Five hours and the silence is deafening, guys! 🙂

                              I mean, Fihaki over ENS(maybe injured so excusable), JRK and Z.Sullivan is an absolute joke within itself. Dallas McLeod should consider himself extremely lucky but hey, he wears the correct jersey during super season. Don’t even get me started on the Crusaders 3rd string hooker who has somehow managed to sneak his way into this squad… if you read above, there was no silence, I pointed it out. It’s a shame but it is what it is, Razor likes to pick for comfort.

                              I’m pleasantly surprised we didn’t see more in there so it could be a lot worse but we can deal with it due to how many others are actually being given a chance here. Some much more deserving than others.

                              Yeah, I stated earlier in this thread that it's a disgrace that McAlister is so high up, couldn't be bothered writing it out again, nothing to do with silence. We all share the same thoughts on Fihaki including Crusaders fans, but we're warned so it's no surprise.

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                              @African-Monkey said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                              Yeah, I stated earlier in this thread that it's a disgrace that McAlister is so high up, couldn't be bothered writing it out again, nothing to do with silence. We all share the same thoughts on Fihaki including Crusaders fans, but we're warned so it's no surprise.

                              Repeat it, get told off for being repetitive. Don’t repeat it, get told off for not repeating.

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                                Seems Donk gave an interview. Anyone seen a link?

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                                @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                Seems Donk gave an interview. Anyone seen a link?

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350444425/embrace-opportunity-all-blacks-xv-coachs-message-sotutu

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                                  @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  Seems Donk gave an interview. Anyone seen a link?

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350444425/embrace-opportunity-all-blacks-xv-coachs-message-sotutu

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                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                  Seems Donk gave an interview. Anyone seen a link?

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350444425/embrace-opportunity-all-blacks-xv-coachs-message-sotutu

                                  Good message from Clayton. But does it apply to the full selectors? We’ve had Cantabs just yesterday claiming Ryan and/or Robertson will never work with him.

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    Yeah, I stated earlier in this thread that it's a disgrace that McAlister is so high up, couldn't be bothered writing it out again, nothing to do with silence. We all share the same thoughts on Fihaki including Crusaders fans, but we're warned so it's no surprise.

                                    Repeat it, get told off for being repetitive. Don’t repeat it, get told off for not repeating.

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                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    Yeah, I stated earlier in this thread that it's a disgrace that McAlister is so high up, couldn't be bothered writing it out again, nothing to do with silence. We all share the same thoughts on Fihaki including Crusaders fans, but we're warned so it's no surprise.

                                    Repeat it, get told off for being repetitive. Don’t repeat it, get told off for not repeating.

                                    Yeah can't win these days!

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

                                      But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i

                                      So 3 forwards and Dalton who has been unsighted for the past how many tests?

                                      Dalton started the first tests of the season, so it's a bit hard to argue they wouldn't work with him.

                                      The only forward who was probably a bit hard done by was Hoskins - and that was blown into a major conspiracy (there was no way he was making this A team according to some) - which has now pretty much been debunked.

                                      Not having a crack at you in the slightest. But there's quite a few in Blues land who have been well over the top.

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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      Not having a crack at you in the slightest. But there's quite a few in Blues land who have been well over the top.

                                      That's fair but on the flip side I think there is genuine discussion to be had around the loose forwards

                                      The loose forwards selection on paper seemed unbalanced, has performed poor to middling and yet no changes at all in that group have occurred across 3 squads (with the exception of the departing Sam Cane coming in once up to speed).

                                      Meanwhile the best performing loose forward trio in Super has one player who has been tried and now can't make a 23, and the other two can't make the AB squad (one of whom would not be departing offshore if the selectors had interest in him). Throw in that this coaching setup is chasing Frizell to be in the squad next year.....

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        Supposedly there needed to be an rticle written about how Razor and Ryan wouldn't work with Blues forwards.

                                        But it foundered when they pointed to Tu'ungafasi, Tuipolotu, Darry and Papali'i

                                        So 3 forwards and Dalton who has been unsighted for the past how many tests?

                                        Dalton started the first tests of the season, so it's a bit hard to argue they wouldn't work with him.

                                        The only forward who was probably a bit hard done by was Hoskins - and that was blown into a major conspiracy (there was no way he was making this A team according to some) - which has now pretty much been debunked.

                                        Not having a crack at you in the slightest. But there's quite a few in Blues land who have been well over the top.

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                                        @Chris-B said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        But there's quite a few in Blues land who have been well over the top.

                                        You calling @sparky a blues fan?

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                                          Loose forward mix has been shit, with the coaches unable to grip Ardie's drop in effectiveness. I am an Ardie fan, see back to my posts, he was the best AB for about 3 or so years. But not this year, and he needs to be replaced. Sotutu should have been in the suad to do that, and he wasn't. Instead we get Cane who should have been left right out, his last game was utter wank and even when he plays well he is not advancing our long term outlook

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