All Blacks v Japan

Chris

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

@canefan said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Japan:

@reprobate said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Canerbry It's a hot field of over-rated players, but he's right up there.

But @Canerbry is right. Unless things drastically change RM will be one of the top two 10s.

I am more concerned about Frizzel.

Concerned he'd be walk straight back in?

Yep. He will add depth and that's nothing to sniff at, but we have alternatives to Frizzell that are just as good, if not better.

Depth is fine, as long as they don't pay him superstar money to get him back in the fold

Or DMac says "fuck this shit, I'm off to do a Mounga"

DMac he has been given plenty of opportunities to make the first five spot his and will Have more over the next year.
If he hasn’t by 2026 then he probably should go off shore,

booboo

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

I'm guessing the team will be something like:

Ofa T, Bell, Tosi, Darry, Lord, Finau, Blackadder; Jacobson (C), Roigard, Perofeta, Telea, Tupaea, Proctor, Narawa, Love

Eklund, Numia, Renata, Holland, Sotutu, Hotham, Plummer, Havili

This is an AB Test match, not a ABXV tour game.

Mr Fish

I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

I'm expecting a line-up of...

1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Asafo Aumua**
3 Pasilio Tosi
4 Patrick Tuipulotu
5 Sam Darry
6 Ethan Blackadder**
7 Dalton Papali'i
8 Luke Jacobson
9 Cam Roigard**
10 Damian McKenzie**
11 Mark Tele'a
12 Jordie Barrett**
13 Billy Proctor
14 (Emoni Narawa)
15 Ruben Love

16 George Bell
17 (George Bower)
18 Fletcher Newell**
19 (Josh Lord)
20 Samipeni Finau
21 TJ Perenara
22 Stephen Perofeta
23 David Havili

() - ABs XV additions
** - top 23 players

booboo

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

I'm expecting a line-up of...

1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Asafo Aumua**
3 Pasilio Tosi
4 Patrick Tuipulotu
5 Sam Darry
6 Ethan Blackadder**
7 Dalton Papali'i
8 Luke Jacobson
9 Cam Roigard**
10 Damian McKenzie**
11 Mark Tele'a
12 Jordie Barrett**
13 Billy Proctor
14 (Emoni Narawa)
15 Ruben Love

16 George Bell
17 (George Bower)
18 Fletcher Newell**
19 (Josh Lord)
20 Samipeni Finau
21 TJ Perenara
22 Stephen Perofeta
23 David Havili

() - ABs XV additions
** - top 23 players

That I reckon is a closer guess

sparky

@booboo It will be good enough to beat Japan and meanwhile in the top 23 will be in Europe acclimatising to the interesting weather we've been having. ️

Machpants

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

I'm expecting a line-up of...

1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Asafo Aumua**
3 Pasilio Tosi
4 Patrick Tuipulotu
5 Sam Darry
6 Ethan Blackadder**
7 Dalton Papali'i
8 Luke Jacobson
9 Cam Roigard**
10 Damian McKenzie**
11 Mark Tele'a
12 Jordie Barrett**
13 Billy Proctor
14 (Emoni Narawa)
15 Ruben Love

16 George Bell
17 (George Bower)
18 Fletcher Newell**
19 (Josh Lord)
20 Samipeni Finau
21 TJ Perenara
22 Stephen Perofeta
23 David Havili

() - ABs XV additions
** - top 23 players

So you reckon they are starting slowdy barretts x3 for the big games

Mr Fish

@Machpants said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v Japan:

I don't think the top 23 will travel directly to England - maybe a dozen or so players. Some others need minutes before taking on England.

I'm expecting a line-up of...

1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Asafo Aumua**
3 Pasilio Tosi
4 Patrick Tuipulotu
5 Sam Darry
6 Ethan Blackadder**
7 Dalton Papali'i
8 Luke Jacobson
9 Cam Roigard**
10 Damian McKenzie**
11 Mark Tele'a
12 Jordie Barrett**
13 Billy Proctor
14 (Emoni Narawa)
15 Ruben Love

16 George Bell
17 (George Bower)
18 Fletcher Newell**
19 (Josh Lord)
20 Samipeni Finau
21 TJ Perenara
22 Stephen Perofeta
23 David Havili

() - ABs XV additions
** - top 23 players

So you reckon they are starting slowdy barretts x3 for the big games

I think BB will be in the 23, either at fullback or on the bench.

I imagine McKenzie will be back at 10 and suspect will need some decent minutes there before the England game.

Mr Fish

@sparky said in All Blacks v Japan:

@booboo It will be good enough to beat Japan and meanwhile in the top 23 will be in Europe acclimatising to the interesting weather we've been having. ️

How do you acclimatise when it changes every half hour at the moment?

Mr Fish

Will be interesting to see the travelling squad for Japan likely confirmed this week.

NTA

https://www.allblacks.com/news/update-to-all-blacks-squad-for-japan-and-northern-tour

Ethan Blackadder (calf), Luke Jacobson (fractured thumb) and Dalton Papali'i (upper hamstring) will not be available to travel with the squad on Thursday due to injury. That has created an opportunity for 21 year old Hurricanes and Wellington loose forward Peter Lakai, and 23 year old Chiefs and Taranaki lock Josh Lord to come into the squad.

Bovidae

And the extra seven are:

Bradley Slater (Hooker / 26 / Chiefs / Taranaki)
George Bower (Prop / 32 / Crusaders / Otago)
Fabian Holland (Lock / 21 / Highlanders / Otago)
Christian Lio-Willie (Loose forward / 26 / Crusaders / Otago)
Oliver Haig (Loose forward / 22 / Highlanders / Otago)
Harry Plummer (First five-eighth / 26 / Blues / Auckland)
AJ Lam (Mid-fielder / 26 / Blues / Auckland)

Canes4life

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:

And the extra seven are:

Bradley Slater (Hooker / 26 / Chiefs / Taranaki)
George Bower (Prop / 32 / Crusaders / Otago)
Fabian Holland (Lock / 21 / Highlanders / Otago)
Christian Lio-Willie (Loose forward / 26 / Crusaders / Otago)
Oliver Haig (Loose forward / 22 / Highlanders / Otago)
Harry Plummer (First five-eighth / 26 / Blues / Auckland)
AJ Lam (Mid-fielder / 26 / Blues / Auckland)

So all guys that aren't involved in NPC finals. Great news.

foobaNZ

Thank goodness. As much as Lakai deserves an AB cap I'd have been gutted if he was taken out of the Lions. He'll get plenty of caps in future.

Bovidae

Lakai and Lord have been added to the AB squad so will leave tomorrow.

Canes4life

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Japan:

Lakai and Lord have been added to the AB squad so will leave tomorrow.

Stoked for Lakai, but that will hurt the Lions big time.

Would be cool if he gets the start against Japan.

foobaNZ

Damn spoke too soon. Well deserved for Lakai but fuck that sucks for the Lions.

Canes4life

@foobaNZ said in All Blacks v Japan:

Damn spoke too soon. Well deserved for Lakai but fuck that sucks for the Lions.

We will definitely need one of Ropeti or Shields to come back now. I feel like Halalilo is too small to be an 8.

Update: will move this over to the match thread.

Canes4life

Based on recent news of Lakai and Lord joining the squad I've updated the squad that @Mr-Fish posted earlier today.

1 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
2 Asafo Aumua**
3 Pasilio Tosi
4 Patrick Tuipulotu
5 Sam Darry
6 Ethan Blackadder** Samipeni Finau
7 ~~Dalton Papali'i~~ Peter Lakai
8 ~~Luke Jacobson~~ Wallace Sititi
9 Cam Roigard**
10 Damian McKenzie**
11 ~~Mark Tele'a~~ Caleb Clarke
12 Jordie Barrett**
13 Billy Proctor
14 ~~(Emoni Narawa)~~ Mark Telea
15 Ruben Love

16 George Bell
17 (George Bower)
18 Fletcher Newell**
19 Josh Lord
20 Christian Lio-Willie
21 TJ Perenara
22 Stephen Perofeta
23 David Havili

() - ABs XV additions
** - top 23 players

KiwiMurph

@Canes4life Narawa isn't one of the players called up I don't believe.

I wonder if Caleb Clarke might play.

Canes4life

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Japan:

@Canes4life Narawa isn't one of the players called up I don't believe.

I wonder if Caleb Clarke might play.

Have updated above and shifted Mark Telea to the right wing.

The Silver Fern

All Blacks v Japan