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All Blacks EOYT

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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    FFS Lio - Willie over Sotutu. Probably not too surprising because Lio - Willie is closer to the hybrid loosie they seem to prefer. It's getting like the Black Caps and their pop gun 'all rounders'.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:

    FFS Lio - Willie over Sotutu. Probably not too surprising because Lio - Willie is closer to the hybrid loosie they seem to prefer. It's getting like the Black Caps and their pop gun 'all rounders'.

    Clearly Razor doesn't subscribe to the win the collision up front idea. I seem to recall Wayne Smith's AB teams as being similar, very good ball playing, but lacking the physicality to go down the middle (I could be wrong)

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      With nearly every opportunity Razor disappoints. Lio-Willie over Sotutu ffs, which franchise does he play for?

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        Crazy crap, Lio-Willie, so England still on for Sotutu

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          With 3 loosies unavailable and only 2 loosies called up to replace them - Lio Willie does provide more cover than Sotutu - but this does fly in the face of the idea that Sotutu was next cab off the rank.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            FFS Lio - Willie over Sotutu. Probably not too surprising because Lio - Willie is closer to the hybrid loosie they seem to prefer. It's getting like the Black Caps and their pop gun 'all rounders'.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks EOYT:

            FFS Lio - Willie over Sotutu. Probably not too surprising because Lio - Willie is closer to the hybrid loosie they seem to prefer. It's getting like the Black Caps and their pop gun 'all rounders'.

            Surf Features channelling his best Henry Ford: "You can have any player you like, as long as it's Mitchell Santner"

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              Based on the extra AB XV players, it looks like Taylor and SB/Vaa'i will be amongst the players going directly to England. But none of the halfbacks.

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                Ha ha ha, no Sotutu?
                Favorite son Lio Willie and some kid.
                Fucking trolls.

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                  Lol, what did Sotutu do to Razor? Lio-Willie wasn't even close to matching the form of Sotutu during Super.

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                    Yea that's pretty comical. Why did they even bother picking Hoskins in the AB XV? Seems like they have 0 desire to give him higher honours.

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                      I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

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                        I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

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                        @DurryMexted said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

                        You say all that, but what has Lio-Willie done more than Sotutu to warrant selection?

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                          Surely at this point we aren't surprised he picks a Crusader lmao.

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                            Cantablacks v2.

                            Hard to be interested in a provincial team pretending to be the All Blacks.

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                              well well, there you go.

                              i didn't even need to read the stats to know Lio-Willie is 187cm, i just made an educated guess.

                              You know the absolute best part about all of this? We are using forwards to pass as much as run to get DMac in to those wide channels. Which NZ forward has the best passing game?
                              So is it that Hoskins is over-qualified?

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @DurryMexted said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

                                You say all that, but what has Lio-Willie done more than Sotutu to warrant selection?

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                                @Canes4life honestly cant say ive watched too many Otago games this year, was more a reflection on Sotutu

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                                  Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

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                                    Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

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                                    @chucknz said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

                                    the problem with that theory is our backup #8 is now also out starting 6. So someone out of Savea and Sititi needs to play 5 weeks in a row if one has to play 8 v Japan.

                                    Unless of course Sititi is heading for the bench once fucking Blackadder is out of sickbay.

                                    Either way that's fucking stupid and these dumb fluffybunnies are off their heads.

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                                      @chucknz said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

                                      the problem with that theory is our backup #8 is now also out starting 6. So someone out of Savea and Sititi needs to play 5 weeks in a row if one has to play 8 v Japan.

                                      Unless of course Sititi is heading for the bench once fucking Blackadder is out of sickbay.

                                      Either way that's fucking stupid and these dumb fluffybunnies are off their heads.

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                                      Kiwiwomble
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                                      @mariner4life yeah, its a real catch with this versatility thing, someone picks up a niggle and it actually effects two positions

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                                      • D DurryMexted

                                        I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

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                                        @DurryMexted said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        I rate it, Sotutu gave nothing in that quarter final against wellington. The guy needs to show some ticker and get stuck in, most other AB or ABXV stand out pretty clearly at NPC level even in poorer teams

                                        Nah, that's just not true. Not his best game in a well-beaten team but still had the most carries from either side. If you think most other AB or AB XV players have been stand-outs then you haven't been watching the NPC.

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                                          Sotutu was excellent in the lineout in the quarter final

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