All Blacks EOYT

gt12

@Canes4life honestly cant say ive watched too many Otago games this year, was more a reflection on Sotutu

Game high 19 carries in that Wellington game, which is 6 more than the next person.
What a fucking log.

mariner4life

@mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

TSF now stands for The Sotutu Forum

All Blacks loose forwards are outplayed in every test this year

Best loose forward in Super rugby for the past 2 years is continuously overlooked

guys on rugby forum talk about it

"er mer gerd you guys are obsessed"

right.

No I just think it is boring speculation to suggest that Lio-Willie and Haig are rated above Sotutu, when Papalii, Blackadder and Jacobson are injured.

Tell me how many minutes those three have played at #8 for the ABs, and tell me how many minutes Sotutu has played not at #8 at the professional level? It is pure speculation to say he is snubbed here on the consideration they view him as a specialist 8.

Why not focus on the positives like Lakai? Or the interesting things, like a lock being selected to replace a loose forward which may mean Barrett is being viewed as a legit option to play 6.

I personally am a bit over the Sotutu conversation, there is little more to be said on it.

because my guess is, Jacobson would have been the #8 v Japan had he been fit (not that we have any real evidnce given the absolute lock one guy has over the minutes) so someone is going to have to play at #8 in a test match for NZ.

Internal options are the normal guy, the supposed back up (who also starts at 6 for us so not ideal), or they bring in a #8. Which they have, in Lio-Wille. Ergo Lio-Willie is rated ahead of Sotutu.

The reason Hoskins gets so much chat on here is as i have said, the loose forwards have been super underwhelming this year, and he is literally the main guy in any position who has been banging the door down for 2 years and can't get in. It's a valid discussion right up until our loose forwards start turning in performances of an elite level again.

george33

Any 1 heard about Hoskins puling out of NZ XV with knee injury?

Yeetyaah

Only just heard earlier on socials that Hos is injured, remain calm ferners.

KiwiMurph

Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

Canes4life

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

Yeah the reason for pulling out will be because he'll go to England. Watch this space.

Surely that means a call up for Brayden Iose. Oh forget it, someone like Cullen Grace will come in.

frugby

@Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

Yeah the reason for pulling out will be because he'll go to England. Watch this space.

Surely that means a call up for Brayden Iose. Oh forget it, someone like Cullen Grace will come in.

Dare I say it, Grace might be a better bet. Iose is the ultimate one-side of the ball player... eye-catching on attack, but probably lacks a bit of size, and not noted for his defending.

antipodean

So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

Wurzel

We won't know the full story until Hoskins makes a sulky post on Insta

Machpants

@antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

Well that gives an reason for Lio going instead.

Old Samurai Jack

@frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

@Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

Yeah the reason for pulling out will be because he'll go to England. Watch this space.

Surely that means a call up for Brayden Iose. Oh forget it, someone like Cullen Grace will come in.

Dare I say it, Grace might be a better bet. Iose is the ultimate one-side of the ball player... eye-catching on attack, but probably lacks a bit of size, and not noted for his defending.

Big Grace fan here (when firing) but he is horribly out of form this year. No way near selection.

george33

Dalton 4-5 weeks apparently, so unlikely to tour.

Toddy

Hoskins was average as in the quater final. He looked disinterested at times. A long way below the form he'd produced in the round robin match against Wgtn. You wouldn't have known he was the best loosie in Super this year. Maybe too many minutes this season?

DurryMexted

@gt12 Oh yeah how many metres gained? i dont know where the stats are reported, i am interested

Bones

@Toddy said in All Blacks EOYT:

Hoskins was average as in the quater final. He looked disinterested at times. A long way below the form he'd produced in the round robin match against Wgtn. You wouldn't have known he was the best loosie in Super this year. Maybe too many minutes this season?

Well if he was playing with an injury it's a fucking gutsy effort... the kind Blackadder could only dream of.

nostrildamus

@antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

He must have bumped Blackadder in the lobby, contagious niggle.

KiwiMurph

@george33 said in All Blacks EOYT:

Dalton 4-5 weeks apparently, so unlikely to tour.

He can swap not playing whilst in the squad for not playing whilst out of the squad

Frank

@Wurzel said in All Blacks EOYT:

We won't know the full story until Hoskins makes a sulky post on Insta

That's good trolling.
Good work.

Frank

@antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

Injured himself kicking the wall when not selected for Japan.
I blame Razor or anyone from Canterbury for their clear bias.

canefan

@antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

I want to know of another loose forward that played as many minutes as Hos did, scoring anywhere near as many tries, or try assists, being as involved not just carrying the ball but as a distributor.

You say all that, but can he play the other side of the ball?

The Silver Fern

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