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  • WurzelW Wurzel

    We won't know the full story until Hoskins makes a sulky post on Insta

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    African Monkey
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    @Wurzel said in All Blacks EOYT:

    We won't know the full story until Hoskins makes a sulky post on Insta

    I would too after seeing every man and his dog go past him.

    It is what it is. Good luck to him whether he chooses England or Fiji.

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    • F frugby

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

      Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

      Yeah the reason for pulling out will be because he'll go to England. Watch this space.

      Surely that means a call up for Brayden Iose. Oh forget it, someone like Cullen Grace will come in.

      Dare I say it, Grace might be a better bet. Iose is the ultimate one-side of the ball player... eye-catching on attack, but probably lacks a bit of size, and not noted for his defending.

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      @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

      Now the conspiracy theory will be if this is an injury or a way of getting out of the tour

      Yeah the reason for pulling out will be because he'll go to England. Watch this space.

      Surely that means a call up for Brayden Iose. Oh forget it, someone like Cullen Grace will come in.

      Dare I say it, Grace might be a better bet. Iose is the ultimate one-side of the ball player... eye-catching on attack, but probably lacks a bit of size, and not noted for his defending.

      If Iose is only a one side of the ball player, then grace is no sides of the ball.

      He was absolutely horrendous this year, up there with the most missed tackles by any player, and was usually too tired to carry, such was his poor fitness.

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      • F frugby

        These injuries have the potential to be huge long-term I reckon... if the ABs struggle, and Lakai is brought in and goes well at openside, Papalii's chances of owning that 7 jersey (ever) take a huge dent.

        Likewise, the injuries probably reopens the door to Samapeni Finau, because you'd imagine in any case he now gets the bench spot due to the desire for a specialist blindside?

        Luke Jacobson and Ethan Blackadder also under threat of watching others go flying past them.

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        @frugby have heard a rumour Blackadder has an offer on the table to join his old man at Toshiba this time next yr, so there's a possibility Ethan may have already played his final test

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        • GrooterG Grooter

          @frugby have heard a rumour Blackadder has an offer on the table to join his old man at Toshiba this time next yr, so there's a possibility Ethan may have already played his final test

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          @Grooter said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @frugby have heard a rumour Blackadder has an offer on the table to join his old man at Toshiba this time next yr, so there's a possibility Ethan may have already played his final test

          Think @george33 might have reported that earlier in the year?

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            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

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            • canefanC canefan

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

              So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

              He must have bumped Blackadder in the lobby, contagious niggle.

              Probably code for "I give up"

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              @canefan said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

              So Hoskins is reportedly out with a knee injury now.

              He must have bumped Blackadder in the lobby, contagious niggle.

              Probably code for "I give up"

              can't like that one.

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                @antipodean said in All Blacks EOYT:

                is Blackadder averaging one injury-assist every game this season? Must be close.

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                  @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  These injuries have the potential to be huge long-term I reckon... if the ABs struggle, and Lakai is brought in and goes well at openside, Papalii's chances of owning that 7 jersey (ever) take a huge dent.

                  Likewise, the injuries probably reopens the door to Samapeni Finau, because you'd imagine in any case he now gets the bench spot due to the desire for a specialist blindside?

                  Luke Jacobson and Ethan Blackadder also under threat of watching others go flying past them.

                  Injuries being the abs best selector, that's a first

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  These injuries have the potential to be huge long-term I reckon... if the ABs struggle, and Lakai is brought in and goes well at openside, Papalii's chances of owning that 7 jersey (ever) take a huge dent.

                  Likewise, the injuries probably reopens the door to Samapeni Finau, because you'd imagine in any case he now gets the bench spot due to the desire for a specialist blindside?

                  Luke Jacobson and Ethan Blackadder also under threat of watching others go flying past them.

                  Injuries being the abs best selector, that's a first

                  A second, at least, worked for Foster's group.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

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                    @Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

                    Im pleasantly surprised to see that they actually asked him to be there

                    However very interesting some of that wording about whether he wants to be or not. I would love for someone to actually ask him rather than create further rumours that he has already thrown in the towel to play elsewhere.

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                    • F frugby

                      @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      Ethan Blackadder also under threat of watching others go flying past them.

                      I see no evidence of that happening.

                      The guy was selected off no rugby, having never set the world on fire in a black jersey and is still being selected despite there being a high degree of certainty he'll struggle to be available 50% of the time. Baffling.

                      True, though part of the reason he keeps coming back is because nobody has taken the chance. Feels like we are about to see a bit of changing of the guard imo.

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                      @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      Ethan Blackadder also under threat of watching others go flying past them.

                      I see no evidence of that happening.

                      The guy was selected off no rugby, having never set the world on fire in a black jersey and is still being selected despite there being a high degree of certainty he'll struggle to be available 50% of the time. Baffling.

                      True, though part of the reason he keeps coming back is because nobody has taken the chance. Feels like we are about to see a bit of changing of the guard imo.

                      Nobody? Somebody called Wallace seemed to go alright.

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                        @Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

                        Im pleasantly surprised to see that they actually asked him to be there

                        However very interesting some of that wording about whether he wants to be or not. I would love for someone to actually ask him rather than create further rumours that he has already thrown in the towel to play elsewhere.

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                        @bayimports said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        @Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

                        Im pleasantly surprised to see that they actually asked him to be there

                        However very interesting some of that wording about whether he wants to be or not. I would love for someone to actually ask him rather than create further rumours that he has already thrown in the towel to play elsewhere.

                        This is the 'it's not Razor's fault when Sotutu pisses off' storyline being seeded.

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                          I still cannot believe how locked in Niggles appears to be.
                          DIdn't seem a clearcut 6 forerunner this season, when he wasn't injured.

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                            Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

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                            @chucknz said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

                            Kinda ironic that all three hybrid loosies injured at once!

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                              @chucknz said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Isn't Lio-Willie more capable of playing multiple positions where Sotutu is more of a specialist hence why he wasn't picked? And given we have 2 eights already it makes sense to have some who can cover 6 & 7

                              Kinda ironic that all three hybrid loosies injured at once!

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                              @pakman a good chance for another young player to step up

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                I still cannot believe how locked in Niggles appears to be.
                                DIdn't seem a clearcut 6 forerunner this season, when he wasn't injured.

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                I still cannot believe how locked in Niggles appears to be.
                                DIdn't seem a clearcut 6 forerunner this season, when he wasn't injured.

                                What's hard to understand. Razor has a hard on for the guy and injury aside has not been keen to change his loose forward group.

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  I still cannot believe how locked in Niggles appears to be.
                                  DIdn't seem a clearcut 6 forerunner this season, when he wasn't injured.

                                  What's hard to understand. Razor has a hard on for the guy and injury aside has not been keen to change his loose forward group.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                  I still cannot believe how locked in Niggles appears to be.
                                  DIdn't seem a clearcut 6 forerunner this season, when he wasn't injured.

                                  What's hard to understand. Razor has a hard on for the guy and injury aside has not been keen to change his loose forward group.

                                  Not hard if that is the reason, but then that reasoning is hard to understand based on performance.

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                                    Have to feel for Blackadder

                                    But it's time for the coach to throw in the towel

                                    It's obvious Blackadder isn't going to quit

                                    And you have to admire that tenacity at least

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      Have to feel for Blackadder

                                      But it's time for the coach to throw in the towel

                                      It's obvious Blackadder isn't going to quit

                                      And you have to admire that tenacity at least

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      Have to feel for Blackadder

                                      But it's time for the coach to throw in the towel

                                      It's obvious Blackadder isn't going to quit

                                      And you have to admire that tenacity at least

                                      Some might see shuffling off to Japan as quitting....

                                      Be heroic if he does that and be disgusting if Sotutu leaves, no doubt.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350453030/scott-robertson-asked-hoskins-sotutu-return-all-blacks-make-changes-northern-tour

                                        Phew. I was about to add to the WTF with Sotutu theme, but now I don't have to.

                                        Even I can't figure out the point of this post now.

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                                          Oh and interesting to see one player pull out as he's injured and can't offer his best. But another eternally injured player clogging up space..

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