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All Blacks v Japan

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  • F frugby

    We won't know who they see as the first choice 10 until the team is named to play England.

    Entirely possible, that they want to give DMac and Roigard a run together because they've never played together.

    I think it is probable that Ratima and Barrett will start next week with DMac and Roigard on the bench, but far from certain.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks v Japan:

    We won't know who they see as the first choice 10 until the team is named to play England.

    Entirely possible, that they want to give DMac and Roigard a run together because they've never played together.

    I think it is probable that Ratima and Barrett will start next week with DMac and Roigard on the bench, but far from certain.

    I think I'm correct in saying McKenzie started every game except the last one, which was a dead rubber against the Aussies - and Robertson said specifically that it was always planned to give Beauden a run at 10.
    I reckon that makes it abundantly clear who the first choice 10 is, and I won't have you messing with my mental health.

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

      I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Japan:

      Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

      I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

      I'm very hopeful it is one of our lads Haig or Holland. Will be so cool to see one of those two debut.

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        Kinda thought Lio Willie is logical replacement for Luke J on bench, to keep Cane and Savea on ice for UK

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          Sincerely hope TJ is only in the squad as injury cover for the two young 'uns and to pass on hairdressing tips.

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            @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Japan:

            Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

            I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

            I'm very hopeful it is one of our lads Haig or Holland. Will be so cool to see one of those two debut.

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            @SouthernMann said in All Blacks v Japan:

            @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Japan:

            Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

            I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

            I'm very hopeful it is one of our lads Haig or Holland. Will be so cool to see one of those two debut.

            Hard to imagine it won't be Haig or CLW, but Holland a chance if they really want to rest their locks.

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              BB with 130+ caps is obvs first choie for Razor, he picks experience esp on the back of a good team performance. Not saying I agree, but I reckon BB for Eng and the next 2 - DMac on the bench

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                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks v Japan:

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

                I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

                I'm very hopeful it is one of our lads Haig or Holland. Will be so cool to see one of those two debut.

                Hard to imagine it won't be Haig or CLW, but Holland a chance if they really want to rest their locks.

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                @frugby said in All Blacks v Japan:

                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks v Japan:

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                Stoked for Proctor, more than deserved. Ruben Love should be starting at 15 imo, to think he’s been around the squad since the England series and hasn’t had a single minute and now he’s getting capped off the bench. Dont see him getting a lot of time against the big teams in the UK so why not get big minutes now.

                I struggle to get the forward pack line up but I have been told that there is a real chance an AB XV player that is training with the team will be named in the 23.

                I'm very hopeful it is one of our lads Haig or Holland. Will be so cool to see one of those two debut.

                Hard to imagine it won't be Haig or CLW, but Holland a chance if they really want to rest their locks.

                Yeah looking at the players unavailable, I'm leaning towards it being Haig. That might just be hopeful thinking on my behalf. He also looks like a potential option to be the final player added to the full squad too. The locks seem relatively settled and untouched by injury. Probably depends on how they have performed in front of the coaches this week too.

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                  Kinda thought Lio Willie is logical replacement for Luke J on bench, to keep Cane and Savea on ice for UK

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                  @ARHS Lakai?

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                    @ARHS Lakai?

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                    @Tim said in All Blacks v Japan:

                    @ARHS Lakai?

                    He will likely start if they don't utilise Cane.

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                      Lakai is now part of the AB squad, so will be involved. Rooming with Cane.

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                        BB with 130+ caps is obvs first choie for Razor, he picks experience esp on the back of a good team performance. Not saying I agree, but I reckon BB for Eng and the next 2 - DMac on the bench

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                        @Machpants how is he obvious first choice when Dmac has started all bar one game
                        To me Dmac is the first choice and will start the big games

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                          All Blacks team vs Japan:

                          1. Tamaiti Williams

                          2. Asafo Aumua

                          3. Pasilio Tosi

                          4. Scott Barrett (c)

                          5. Patrick Tuipulotu

                          6. Samipeni Finau

                          7. Sam Cane

                          8. Wallace Sititi

                          9. Cam Roigard

                          10. Damian McKenzie

                          11. Mark Tele'a

                          12. Anton Lienert-Brown

                          13. Billy Proctor

                          14. Sevu Reece

                          15. Stephen Perofeta

                          16. George Bell

                          17. Ethan de Groot

                          18. Fletcher Newell

                          19. Sam Darry

                          20. Peter Lakai

                          21. Cortez Ratima

                          22. David Havili

                          23. Ruben Love

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                            Scott Barret presumably plays all big tests.
                            Not sure why he starts against Japan.
                            (You were wrong on that one)
                            Great to see Roigard starting and Sititi at 8.
                            Hope Lakai gets some good minutes.

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                              All Blacks team vs Japan:

                              1. Tamaiti Williams

                              2. Asafo Aumua

                              3. Pasilio Tosi

                              4. Scott Barrett (c)

                              5. Patrick Tuipulotu

                              6. Samipeni Finau

                              7. Sam Cane

                              8. Wallace Sititi

                              9. Cam Roigard

                              10. Damian McKenzie

                              11. Mark Tele'a

                              12. Anton Lienert-Brown

                              13. Billy Proctor

                              14. Sevu Reece

                              15. Stephen Perofeta

                              16. George Bell

                              17. Ethan de Groot

                              18. Fletcher Newell

                              19. Sam Darry

                              20. Peter Lakai

                              21. Cortez Ratima

                              22. David Havili

                              23. Ruben Love

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                              @darylmitchell said in All Blacks v Japan:

                              All Blacks team vs Japan:

                              1. Tamaiti Williams

                              2. Asafo Aumua

                              3. Pasilio Tosi

                              4. Scott Barrett (c)

                              5. Patrick Tuipulotu

                              6. Samipeni Finau

                              7. Sam Cane

                              8. Wallace Sititi

                              9. Cam Roigard

                              10. Damian McKenzie

                              11. Mark Tele'a

                              12. Anton Lienert-Brown

                              13. Billy Proctor

                              14. Sevu Reece

                              15. Stephen Perofeta

                              16. George Bell

                              17. Ethan de Groot

                              18. Fletcher Newell

                              19. Sam Darry

                              20. Peter Lakai

                              21. Cortez Ratima

                              22. David Havili

                              23. Ruben Love

                              Is this a confirmation or an assumption of what you think the team will be?

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                                frugby
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                                This would seem bizarrely strong in the forwards... makes the selection of Lord a little puzzling, because if he wasn't to play this game, then when else would he play? Also thought they would have wanted to give Ofa a run.

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                                  Disappointing forward selections if this is true.

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                                    Bovidae
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                                      reprobate
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                                      Pretty happy with that. Have to remember they haven't played a game in quite a while, and this is the only warm-up. Complete rest for Vaai, Lomax, Taylor, Savea who have had the heaviest workload I'd think. Good opportunity for the other front rowers to start. Hopefully Ethan is just doing lots of running. Expect Lord on for Barrett early.
                                      If we had a rapid traditional style 7 there, you'd just about be looking at a balanced trio, but Cane is a long way from that now - still, good to see Samipeni get another run and Sititi at 8. Be nice to see them operate with Lakai on for Cane early - although Sititi coming off would be better for managing minutes.

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                                        Chuckling that this coaching staff can't find it in themselves to give a player a debut start vs Japan.

                                        Fairly predictable.

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                                          @Bovidae That team will take care of Japan no problem.

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