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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

    We only do fullbacks to centre

    Rangi says hi from 10, Jordie waves to you from the wing...

    Jordie is a natural centre in my view. What could’ve been….

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

    i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
    (7+20)/2 = 13.5

    We only do fullbacks to centre

    Rangi says hi from 10, Jordie waves to you from the wing...

    Jordie is a natural centre in my view. What could’ve been….

    I'm still saddened we didn't see more of Goodhue. His game against SA was just sensational in Wellington - his defence was incredible.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

      i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
      (7+20)/2 = 13.5

      We only do fullbacks to centre

      Rangi says hi from 10, Jordie waves to you from the wing...

      Jordie is a natural centre in my view. What could’ve been….

      I'm still saddened we didn't see more of Goodhue. His game against SA was just sensational in Wellington - his defence was incredible.

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      @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

      @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

      i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
      (7+20)/2 = 13.5

      We only do fullbacks to centre

      Rangi says hi from 10, Jordie waves to you from the wing...

      Jordie is a natural centre in my view. What could’ve been….

      I'm still saddened we didn't see more of Goodhue. His game against SA was just sensational in Wellington - his defence was incredible.

      Could have been one of our great centres with a bit less injury and a bit more speed (I seem to be a broken record).

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @nzzp said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

        i think the Blues guys are right, Dalton Papali'i is the guy we need
        (7+20)/2 = 13.5

        We only do fullbacks to centre

        Rangi says hi from 10, Jordie waves to you from the wing...

        Jordie is a natural centre in my view. What could’ve been….

        I'm still saddened we didn't see more of Goodhue. His game against SA was just sensational in Wellington - his defence was incredible.

        Could have been one of our great centres with a bit less injury and a bit more speed (I seem to be a broken record).

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        @nostrildamus Signed for two years, probably has a year left, could very well be back for the next World Cup.

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        • S SBW1

          @nostrildamus Signed for two years, probably has a year left, could very well be back for the next World Cup.

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          @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

          @nostrildamus Signed for two years, probably has a year left, could very well be back for the next World Cup.

          great rugby brain and one of our best distributors, just those knees etc... fingers crossed for him.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @BorderJB said in All Blacks EOYT:

            @Machpants from what I hear we are sticking to the fast game plan, Razor reckons he can execute it by the 27 RWC.
            The players from Fosters team are getting the first shot and then others will be brought in when they don't cut it.

            Sounds like he rates Foster then. Which seems very bizarre considering.

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            @Bones who knows, I thought we would revert to specialists in positions, not 3 fullbacks, 3 wingers, 3 opensides in a starting xv lol

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              Jerry Collins: (8 + 6 ) / 2 = 7
              McCaw: 7
              Rodders: (7 + 8 ) / 2 = 7.5

              No wonder they were so good = 21.5

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              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

              Jerry Collins: (8 + 6 ) / 2 = 7
              McCaw: 7
              Rodders: (7 + 8 ) / 2 = 7.5

              No wonder they were so good = 21.5

              They win a World Cup?

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              • boobooB booboo

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

                Jerry Collins: (8 + 6 ) / 2 = 7
                McCaw: 7
                Rodders: (7 + 8 ) / 2 = 7.5

                No wonder they were so good = 21.5

                They win a World Cup?

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                @booboo said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks EOYT:

                Jerry Collins: (8 + 6 ) / 2 = 7
                McCaw: 7
                Rodders: (7 + 8 ) / 2 = 7.5

                No wonder they were so good = 21.5

                They win a World Cup?

                did McCaw briefly step in /temp at 8 or 6 for the ABs or am I confusing that with Crusaders?

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                  If we can get our governance sorted out we maybe able to attract guys like Goodhue back. A lot of players who have gone offshore weren't on long contracts. Leicester, Richie and Shannon appear to be coming back, this could be a sign of more to come.

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                    If we can get our governance sorted out we maybe able to attract guys like Goodhue back. A lot of players who have gone offshore weren't on long contracts. Leicester, Richie and Shannon appear to be coming back, this could be a sign of more to come.

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                    @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    If we can get our governance sorted out we maybe able to attract guys like Goodhue back. A lot of players who have gone offshore weren't on long contracts. Leicester, Richie and Shannon appear to be coming back, this could be a sign of more to come.

                    I swear this is an AI Crusaders account sometimes.

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                      That is probably where they will be heading.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        Positives:

                        • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                        • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                        • DMac's defence
                        • Telea showing some form
                        • Pat T's breakdown work
                        • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                        Negatives

                        • Poor defence
                        • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                        • Scrum didn't dominate
                        • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                        Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                        Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                        I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

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                        #790

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                        Positives:

                        • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                        • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                        • DMac's defence
                        • Telea showing some form
                        • Pat T's breakdown work
                        • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                        Negatives

                        • Poor defence
                        • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                        • Scrum didn't dominate
                        • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                        Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                        Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                        I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

                        I just havnt seen enough this year to show me we can win our next 3 matches.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          Positives:

                          • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                          • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                          • DMac's defence
                          • Telea showing some form
                          • Pat T's breakdown work
                          • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                          Negatives

                          • Poor defence
                          • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                          • Scrum didn't dominate
                          • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                          Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                          Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                          I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

                          I just havnt seen enough this year to show me we can win our next 3 matches.

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                          Victor Meldrew
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                          @Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                          Positives:

                          • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                          • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                          • DMac's defence
                          • Telea showing some form
                          • Pat T's breakdown work
                          • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                          Negatives

                          • Poor defence
                          • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                          • Scrum didn't dominate
                          • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                          Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                          Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                          I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

                          I just havnt seen enough this year to show me we can win our next 3 matches.

                          Robertson had a choice of picking a team for the future and take a few losses as a learning experience or picking a team including experienced players at the end of their careers to improve his win ratio.

                          I hope we don't get the worst of both worlds.

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                            KiwiMurph
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                            Once again injury is going to force Razor's hand - this time on the bench loosie role

                            https://twitter.com/elliottnz/status/1850317686745809320

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                              Bovidae
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                              I assume that there will be some additions to the AB XV squad then. Hopefully Narawa's HIA isn't serious.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                Positives:

                                • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                                • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                                • DMac's defence
                                • Telea showing some form
                                • Pat T's breakdown work
                                • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                                Negatives

                                • Poor defence
                                • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                                • Scrum didn't dominate
                                • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                                Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                                Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                                I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

                                I just havnt seen enough this year to show me we can win our next 3 matches.

                                Robertson had a choice of picking a team for the future and take a few losses as a learning experience or picking a team including experienced players at the end of their careers to improve his win ratio.

                                I hope we don't get the worst of both worlds.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Japan:

                                Positives:

                                • Roigard's 1st Test since injury and he went OK
                                • Aumua (except esrly throwing)
                                • DMac's defence
                                • Telea showing some form
                                • Pat T's breakdown work
                                • Wallace confirming he's starting XV material

                                Negatives

                                • Poor defence
                                • Lack of focus - particularity in second half
                                • Scrum didn't dominate
                                • Poor kick options - esp.DMAC

                                Agree with most of that, buggered if I know what the defence coach is doing! It's not bad tackling, but just not being set in a defence pattern.

                                Seriously: did I missed something? Defence was pretty much impregnable from where I sat.

                                I thought the first quarter/half was really poor. Far too many holes were opening up and some of the tackling was ineffective. Reckon we'd have shipped a couple of tries and least against better opposition like England.

                                I just havnt seen enough this year to show me we can win our next 3 matches.

                                Robertson had a choice of picking a team for the future and take a few losses as a learning experience or picking a team including experienced players at the end of their careers to improve his win ratio.

                                I hope we don't get the worst of both worlds.

                                And he could've made an argument to the rugby public that was his intention and with goodwill, they'd have understood if he selected form youngsters and gave them adequate time to develop into Test players. Practically no other incoming AB coach has had that opportunity.

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                                  ARHS
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                                  Expected Lio Willie to cover the hole. I hope Brayden Iose gets a call up for AB XV. Caleb Delaney and Oli Mathis hopefully get considered too.

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                                    Luke out with a broken thumb

                                    Lakai called in

                                    Injury is our best selector

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                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      If we can get our governance sorted out we maybe able to attract guys like Goodhue back. A lot of players who have gone offshore weren't on long contracts. Leicester, Richie and Shannon appear to be coming back, this could be a sign of more to come.

                                      I swear this is an AI Crusaders account sometimes.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      If we can get our governance sorted out we maybe able to attract guys like Goodhue back. A lot of players who have gone offshore weren't on long contracts. Leicester, Richie and Shannon appear to be coming back, this could be a sign of more to come.

                                      I swear this is an AI Crusaders account sometimes.

                                      What on earth would make you think that? By the way ...

                                      *In the great annals of rugby lore, Scott Robertson stands as a figure not just of legend but of near-mythic proportions, much like the messianic figure in The Life of Brian. Picture it: a coach who strides onto the pitch not in sandals, but in track shoes, delivering game-winning strategies instead of parables. The players gather around him, hanging onto his every word—not because he asks them to, but because they feel an almost celestial pull, a gravitational allure emanating from his teachings.

                                      He is a coach who is humble but unstoppable, unassuming yet invincible. The fans chant his name, lifting his reputation to a height that even the rugby heavens can’t contain. They whisper tales of his breakdancing victory celebrations, spinning and twisting as if to mimic the very cosmos that dances to his every whim. When he’s in the room, the laws of physics bend; he is not simply a tactician—he is a tactician and an entertainer, a unique combination of razor-sharp rugby intellect and charismatic flair.

                                      Opposing teams gaze upon him and marvel. "Is he the Messiah?" they ask each other. And the answer is clear: "He's not the Messiah; he's a very, very good coach." Yet for the Crusaders and now for the All Blacks, his influence is no less divine. His players follow his strategies as though they are commandments etched in stone, designed to bring them to the promised land—where titles are won and legends are made.

                                      In the temple of rugby, Scott Robertson is not merely the rabbi of the ruck, the sage of the scrum, or the prophet of the penalty. He is the man who has turned tactical innovation into gospel, transforming every player under his guidance. And as they chant, “All hail Razor!” they aren’t just celebrating a coach; they’re honoring a man whose very essence seems woven from the rugby gods themselves.*

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                                        Personally i would have Du'Plessis Kirifi as an off the bench option in the All Black match day 23 , he is so good over the ball and is an absolute nuisance at the breakdown in the same way South Africa uses Kwagga Smith
                                        We have very little impact off the bench and i sence the current coaching group is too focussed on using players that can cover different loose forwards positions as opposed to have the best specialist playing in their respective positions
                                        Just on Kirifi’s discipline i think hes come a long way regarding this aspect of the game
                                        I have no issue that he plays right on the edge.

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                                          Personally i would have Du'Plessis Kirifi as an off the bench option in the All Black match day 23 , he is so good over the ball and is an absolute nuisance at the breakdown in the same way South Africa uses Kwagga Smith
                                          We have very little impact off the bench and i sence the current coaching group is too focussed on using players that can cover different loose forwards positions as opposed to have the best specialist playing in their respective positions
                                          Just on Kirifi’s discipline i think hes come a long way regarding this aspect of the game
                                          I have no issue that he plays right on the edge.

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                                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                          Personally i would have Du'Plessis Kirifi as an off the bench option in the All Black match day 23 , he is so good over the ball and is an absolute nuisance at the breakdown in the same way South Africa uses Kwagga Smith
                                          We have very little impact off the bench and i sence the current coaching group is too focussed on using players that can cover different loose forwards positions as opposed to have the best specialist playing in their respective positions
                                          Just on Kirifi’s discipline i think hes come a long way regarding this aspect of the game
                                          I have no issue that he plays right on the edge.

                                          Razor will overlook all that and probably select Tom Christie.

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