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All Blacks XV 2024

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    KiwiInLondon
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    So the loose forwards are Kirifi, Haig, And Delaney? I suppose Ah Kuoi can cover but on form surely he’s one of the starting locks?

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      There has to be other players added. Delany doesn't solve the problem of having no no.8, and they won't be able to use someone from the AB squad (e.g., Lakai) in this game.

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        Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

        But Corey Kellow? Jesus christ.

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        • frugbyF frugby

          Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

          But Corey Kellow? Jesus christ.

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          KiwiInLondon
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          #468

          @frugby who should have made it instead?

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            Bovidae
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            Kellow had a decent season, certainly better than Christie. But it does add fuel to the fire about not liking Blues loose forwards. I would have chosen Segner for his utility value.

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              reprobate
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              #470

              Kellow played pretty well I thought, that's not a biased selection to me.

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.

                I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there. 😉

                TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.

                Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.

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                @booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.

                I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there. 😉

                TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.

                Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.

                Nostrabooboo

                Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Kellow had a decent season, certainly better than Christie. But it does add fuel to the fire about not liking Blues loose forwards. I would have chosen Segner for his utility value.

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                  WoodysRFC
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                  #472

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  Kellow had a decent season, certainly better than Christie. But it does add fuel to the fire about not liking Blues loose forwards. I would have chosen Segner for his utility value.

                  I'd have preferred Segner or Withy at seven, not too fussed though.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.

                    I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there. 😉

                    TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.

                    Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.

                    Nostrabooboo

                    Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.

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                    Canes4life
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                    #473

                    @booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @booboo said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Nepia said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    @brodean said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                    Grace wasn't even good for the Canterbury bench.

                    I wouldn't select him but I had to add some Crusaders players in there. 😉

                    TBF, not being good and Crusaders bench is not really a selection hurdle.

                    Hate to say it but I don't mind Kellow.

                    Nostrabooboo

                    Goes well. Not a bad selection. I'd rate him higher than Kirifi.

                    Jeez that's a big call, Kirifi was the difference maker for the Lions, especially against Waikato in the semi. His leadership alone is only matched by a small few in New Zealand. I recall Kellow playing well for Canterbury but not to the extent of Kirifi since he's come back.

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                    • frugbyF frugby

                      Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                      But Corey Kellow? Jesus christ.

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                      darylmitchell
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                      #474

                      @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                      Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                      Where does it say that? Source please?

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                        Grooter
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                        #475

                        If anyone might have been wondering why Brayden Iose wasn't called in as cover, I've been told unfortunately he's injured.

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                          @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                          Where does it say that? Source please?

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                          Canes4life
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                          #476

                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                          Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                          Where does it say that? Source please?

                          Not sure about Parker but see below for updates.

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                            @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                            Where does it say that? Source please?

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                            SouthernMann
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                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            @frugby said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                            Flanders, Delaney & Parker added... all cool and well-deserving selections I'd say.

                            Where does it say that? Source please?

                            Jump on the ABs XV Facebook page...

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                              #478

                              So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:

                              1. George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
                              2. Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
                              3. George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
                              4. Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
                              5. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
                              6. Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
                              7. Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                              8. Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                              9. Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
                              10. Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
                              11. Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
                              12. AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
                              13. Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
                              14. Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
                              15. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
                              16. Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                              17. Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                              18. Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
                              19. Caleb Delany (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                              20. Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
                              21. Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
                              22. Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                              23. Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)
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                                Bovidae
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                                #479

                                Here's the official update.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:

                                    1. George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
                                    2. Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
                                    3. George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
                                    4. Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
                                    5. Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
                                    6. Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
                                    7. Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    8. Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    9. Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
                                    10. Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
                                    11. Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
                                    12. AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
                                    13. Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
                                    14. Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
                                    15. Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
                                    16. Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                    17. Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    18. Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
                                    19. Caleb Delany (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    20. Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
                                    21. Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
                                    22. Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                    23. Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)
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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                    So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:

                                    Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
                                    George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
                                    Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
                                    Josh Lord (Chiefs / Taranaki)*
                                    Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
                                    Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                    Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
                                    Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
                                    Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
                                    AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
                                    Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
                                    Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
                                    Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
                                    Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                    George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
                                    Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
                                    Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
                                    Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
                                    Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
                                    Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                    Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)

                                    Bower an AB injuey replacement, but not good enough to start ahead od the Hurricanes prop... or just a personal preference. With my personal preference I'd have Ma'u starting at tighthead

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.

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                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                      To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.

                                      IMO all the ABs squad returnees will start

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                                      • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:

                                        Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
                                        George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
                                        Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
                                        Josh Lord (Chiefs / Taranaki)*
                                        Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
                                        Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
                                        Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
                                        Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
                                        AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
                                        Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
                                        Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
                                        Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
                                        Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                        George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
                                        Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
                                        Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
                                        Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
                                        Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
                                        Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                        Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)

                                        Bower an AB injuey replacement, but not good enough to start ahead od the Hurricanes prop... or just a personal preference. With my personal preference I'd have Ma'u starting at tighthead

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                                        #483

                                        @SouthernMann said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                        So based on player movements my guess at the new AB XV 23 would be:

                                        Xavier Numia (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Kurt Eklund (Blues / Bay of Plenty)
                                        George Dyer (Chiefs / Waikato)
                                        Fabian Holland ( Highlanders / Otago)
                                        Josh Lord (Chiefs / Taranaki)*
                                        Oliver Haig (Highlanders / Otago)
                                        Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Devan Flanders (Hurricanes / Wellington)
                                        Finlay Christie (29 / Blues / Ta$man)*
                                        Harry Plummer (26 / Blues / Auckland)*
                                        Kiniviliame Naholo (25 / Hurricanes / Taranaki)
                                        AJ Lam (26 / Blues / Auckland)
                                        Quinn Tupaea (25 / Chiefs / Waikato)*
                                        Emoni Narawa (Chiefs / Bay of Plenty)*
                                        Shaun Stevenson (Chiefs / North Harbour)*
                                        Bradley Slater (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                        George Bower (Crusaders / Otago)*
                                        Marcel Renata (Blues / Auckland)
                                        Isaia Walker-Leawere (Hurricanes / Hawke’s Bay)
                                        Corey Kellow (Crusaders / Canterbury)
                                        Noah Hotham (Crusaders / Ta$man)*
                                        Josh Jacomb (Chiefs / Taranaki)
                                        Riley Higgins (Hurricanes / Wellington)

                                        Bower an AB injuey replacement, but not good enough to start ahead od the Hurricanes prop... or just a personal preference. With my personal preference I'd have Ma'u starting at tighthead

                                        Yeah I was meant to update that after Bower was called in to the ABs. Have updated above. Numia though unlucky, as if it wasn't for injury later in Super he may have made the original AB squad of the year. Was definitely in front of Bower.

                                        I've also taken out Lord, promoted Walker-Leawere and have added Delany as lock/blindside reserve.

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                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.

                                          IMO all the ABs squad returnees will start

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks XV 2024:

                                          To do the player and team justice any AB squad member moving to this team will need to train for the full week. That could include Lord and Lio-Willie.

                                          IMO all the ABs squad returnees will start

                                          I am referring to the 2-3 players who could bounce between squads, not the extras from Japan.

                                          I wouldn't read too much into 6 players that went to Japan, as they excluded any involved in the final.

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