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The Haka

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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    #40

    The English are just angry they haven't thought of having a chariot ride at ferocious velocity around the stadium before the game by a 2000 year old militant femme in striking headgear.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @taniwharugby who gives a fuck about God anyway?

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      Victor Meldrew
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      #41

      @Bones said in The Haka:

      @taniwharugby who gives a fuck about God anyway?

      The BTL comments in The Telegraph are a hoot. You should get in there and get stuck in on how God Save the King is a colonialist genocidal anthem which needs to be banned...

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @Bones said in The Haka:

        @taniwharugby who gives a fuck about God anyway?

        The BTL comments in The Telegraph are a hoot. You should get in there and get stuck in on how God Save the King is a colonialist genocidal anthem which needs to be banned...

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        #42

        @Victor-Meldrew

        The Haka, God Save The King and God Save New Zealand just aren't woke enough for 2024.

        Come to think of it, neither is test match Rugby.

        The entire game on Saturday should be scrapped and 80,000 in Twickenham should have a silent vigil instead to ponder the evils of colonialism. 😉

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @Victor-Meldrew

          The Haka, God Save The King and God Save New Zealand just aren't woke enough for 2024.

          Come to think of it, neither is test match Rugby.

          The entire game on Saturday should be scrapped and 80,000 in Twickenham should have a silent vigil instead to ponder the evils of colonialism. 😉

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          nostrildamus
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          #43

          @sparky said in The Haka:

          @Victor-Meldrew

          The Haka, God Save The King and God Save New Zealand just aren't woke enough for 2024.

          Come to think of it, neither is test match Rugby.

          The entire game on Saturday should be scrapped and 80,000 in Twickenham should have a silent vigil instead to ponder the evils of colonialism. 😉

          Maybe we could save time and have a God Save The Haka mashup?

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            #44

            Marler knows about banning and binning.
            https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/64153235

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                Billy Tell
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                #46

                Yawn. Must be autumn international time again.

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                • sparkyS Offline
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                  #47

                  Joe Marler has re-emerged on X to say he was just having a bit of fun.

                  Maybe he should join Planet Rugby?

                  https://twitter.com/JoeMarler/status/1851594452621561936

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                    Done more to promote the fixture than the MSM tbf

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      Done more to promote the fixture than the MSM tbf

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                      @MiketheSnow said in The Haka:

                      Done more to promote the fixture than the MSM tbf

                      Indeed he has. Wrote yesterday that it was a very subdued build up, but suddenly it's everywhere.

                      well played Joe.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        Joe Marler has re-emerged on X to say he was just having a bit of fun.

                        Maybe he should join Planet Rugby?

                        https://twitter.com/JoeMarler/status/1851594452621561936

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                        #50

                        @sparky said in The Haka:

                        Joe Marler has re-emerged on X to say he was just having a bit of fun.

                        Maybe he should join Planet Rugby?

                        https://twitter.com/JoeMarler/status/1851594452621561936

                        Don't feed the troll!
                        <looks at picture of Marler>
                        Oi! Too late!

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @sparky said in The Haka:

                          Joe Marler has re-emerged on X to say he was just having a bit of fun.

                          Maybe he should join Planet Rugby?

                          https://twitter.com/JoeMarler/status/1851594452621561936

                          Don't feed the troll!
                          <looks at picture of Marler>
                          Oi! Too late!

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                          @nostrildamus

                          Maybe he'll get a reality TV gig out of it? Not Strictly or the Jungle but one of the Channel 5 ones.

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                            Joe Marler has left the England camp for "personal reasons". Not that he was picked to play anyway.

                            https://twitter.com/RugbyInsideLine/status/1851595578523697602

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                              As long as he doesn't go on some half-naked survival camp and return with some form of tāmoko and a deeper appreciation of other cultures, then lectures across the country on the serious intergenerational harm of internet trolling.

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                                Marler has always been a bit of an attention seeker. Considers himself quite the character.

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                                  Oliver Brown from The Telegraph picking up from where Marler left off:

                                  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/10/30/the-haka-is-overused-and-it-is-absurd-to-stand-there/

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                                    #56

                                    I must admit too being a little torn on the subject of the Haka. On the one hand I like the spectacle, love the tradition of the Haka going back all those years too. It was a real something to look forward to due to the rarity of seeing it, particularly first hand. I would hate to see it stopped. On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response. The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.

                                    Much of this "on the other hand" stuff has, for me, reduced the enjoyment of the spectacle and I yearn for earlier times when we had Ka Mate, it was watched with respect by the opposition, applauded by the crowd and we then got on with the game.

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                                      Oliver Brown from The Telegraph picking up from where Marler left off:

                                      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/10/30/the-haka-is-overused-and-it-is-absurd-to-stand-there/

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                                      @scribe said in The Haka:

                                      Oliver Brown from The Telegraph picking up from where Marler left off:

                                      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/10/30/the-haka-is-overused-and-it-is-absurd-to-stand-there/

                                      1. Really sad that he think this is worth writing about

                                      2. Really, really sad that he thinks that what he's written is better than what Marler wrote

                                      3. Really, really, really sad that it took a wind up merchant to wake him up and write something in the lead up to a very important match for both sides

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        I must admit too being a little torn on the subject of the Haka. On the one hand I like the spectacle, love the tradition of the Haka going back all those years too. It was a real something to look forward to due to the rarity of seeing it, particularly first hand. I would hate to see it stopped. On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response. The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.

                                        Much of this "on the other hand" stuff has, for me, reduced the enjoyment of the spectacle and I yearn for earlier times when we had Ka Mate, it was watched with respect by the opposition, applauded by the crowd and we then got on with the game.

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                                        Victor Meldrew
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                                        #58

                                        @Catogrande said in The Haka:

                                        On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response.

                                        I agree with some of that. It's the rules around the team facing it I can't stand and (like I suspect the vast majority of NZ'er) loved the Willie Anderson/Cockerill/France 2011 approach. It is a challenge, FFS.

                                        What gets me is the ignorance around it perpetuated by click-bait journalists who know perfectly well what they are saying is bollocks.

                                        The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.

                                        By it's nature it has to be and there are many, many haka. My old school has 5 apparently.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Catogrande said in The Haka:

                                          On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response.

                                          I agree with some of that. It's the rules around the team facing it I can't stand and (like I suspect the vast majority of NZ'er) loved the Willie Anderson/Cockerill/France 2011 approach. It is a challenge, FFS.

                                          What gets me is the ignorance around it perpetuated by click-bait journalists who know perfectly well what they are saying is bollocks.

                                          The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.

                                          By it's nature it has to be and there are many, many haka. My old school has 5 apparently.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew

                                          That last bit is where culturally, I am somewhat adrift. I understand that there are many different Haka but in relation to the ABs, it was, from memory, always Ka Mate and that was the tradition. Now we have others and that leaves me a little cool. But as I say, I may not understand the cultural ambiguity of it all.

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