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"The other impressive part of the chase was the way Williamson and company played Imran Tahir. For the premier legspinner to go wicketless showed a clear, smart gameplan in terms of identifying where the main risk was".

Tahir should have had a wicket or two, we were certainly helped by a dropped catch or two and Williamson could have easily been out a few times. Hopefully we have the middle order and tail to deal with this outcome if it occurs at the pointy end of the comp

@TeWaio said in CWC Game #4 Black Caps v India:

India breathe a sigh of relief

We'll let em off with a warning.... this time.

@MN5 said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@MN5 said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@MN5 said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@MN5 said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in CWC Game #3 Black Caps vs Afghanistan:

Henry at 8 overs for 50. Bowling at the best possible time.
Bloody waste of a bowling spot.

I know, forget the seven wickets he's taken previously. He's shit.

Neesham took 5 in this game alone you must think he is an elite world class bowler..

Definitely not although it's still a wonderful achievement.

Henry has a spot in the team. Like it or not.

Great argument. He has a spot in team so should not be dropped... genius.

Well certainly not on the back of one lackluster performance, no. Otherwise we'll be getting rid of Boult too.

But you can always console yourself with the thought that Southee may have done better.

One lacklustre. He is nearly always lacklustre. This game was just more evidence of the point I made about Henry before the game.

He get's a few wickets for someone so lackluster. I guess he's just really, really lucky. A lot of the time.

What current ability? The ability to only bowl at the best times to bowl or the ability to bowl pies?

@LABCAT kind of my point.

An afternoon T20 seems a waste

I agree with the above, have Henry AND Southee to cover opening + death bowling, and mug off Colin bigman. Henry/Southee will together probably produce as many runs in the last 5-7overs slogging, and if CDG comes in with 15 overs+ to bat we're probably screwed at that point anyway.

I reckon our best team is:

Guppy Nicholls Kane Rossco Latham (wk) Neesham Satnav Southee Henry Ferguson Boult

@Siam said in CWC Game #1 Black Caps vs Sri Lanka:

@MN5 in reality you just don't catch a ball with a lot of grass around like that replay showed

Your fingers are either under the ball or not touching the ball. You can't splay your fingers around the ball and have it grounded simultaneously.

Your either get it on the tightest of half volleys or you get your fingers on under the ball but not above each blade of grass, like the replay showed.
This 2d camera distortion happens a lot and the catcher always looks pissed off. He's not cheating, it's because that catch is out hundreds of times at practice and in non televised games

I'll have another look now I'm slightly more awake.

Basically. From the ICC funding POV. NZC have more money. However it is structured i n a way that is is weighted to the backend of the contract period whihc is only 4 ears away - they have a windfall about 2 to 3 years way.

But they can't budget well enough, or hold their nerve, for a few years of losses, and are prepared to taker the sword to domestic cricket costs.

When the windfall arrives in 2 years time, will the 60 domestic players have retired early to get real jobs because they were about to be made semi-pro for 2 years come back?

Or will Plunket Shield have had a generation ripped out of them? Similar to how the disastrous Cricekt Academey ripped a generation of domestic pace bowlers out of Plunket Shield for a decade (the 2000s) due to bio-dynamics/re-modelling breaking them permanently?

The other major funding source; broadcasting. Is referred to as ""As a rights holder it's not a bad market to be in,"

So this whole thing is over the structure of the ICC payments.

@Damo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

@NTA said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

@Damo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

@MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

@Damo said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

Can we realistically be knocked out? Or are we in unless we see an Inzamam Ul Huq type innings?

60 off 37 doesn’t really cut it in today’s game.

Also tiny boundaries and Harris and Larsen bowling. Please

Mate don't come at me with your facts and figures.

Inzi's taking the game away from us in '92 was the single greatest innings in an ODI bar none. FACT.

🤔 dunno... I'm having a hard time picking between Ponting and Gilchrist. We're taking about innings in a CWC final, right?

Nah we're talking greatest ODI innings of all time. FACT!

Ponting, then.

@KiwiPie said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

@booboo said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

@KiwiPie said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

@Hooroo said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

@KiwiPie said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

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@Cyclops said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

@mariner4life said in New Zealand V Bangladesh Test III:

good, been resting on his laurels, what's he done for us lately?

Apart from the runs, the leadership, the holding together of our batting order in tough conditions, and the occasional spin bowling, what's Williamson ever done for us!

Hes been pretty handy in the gully.

He's made a great contribution to non-manicured beards.

Big pressure on Will Young - weak opposition so everyone expects him to hit a 100 and this could be the only chance he gets for a while.

Maybe this test won't go ahead after the Mosque shooting?

Didn't find out about this until I saw this post and thought "a mosque shooting in Bangladesh?" I found out 9/11 on a Notts County forum in the morning following the action of cup game we were playing. There was a guy posting from New York and somehow said "so glad you're OK". Probably says a lot about me and my priorities of staying updated with events ....

Genuine question:

where do you live and how did you avoid it?

Tauranga and I was head down at work .... didn't mean I didn't know until the moment I just posted! It was a couple of hours after it was news. Shows that everyone else at work was head down as well ....

You're a true asset to your company! 🙂

Here comes Sachin!...

Crazy to see how long John Wright was the amount the leading run scorers too.

@Cyclops said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

@KiwiPie said in NZ v Bangladesh Test #1:

Top Batting Averages since the start of 2014 for players with over 30 tests

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=matches;spanmin1=1+jan+2014;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

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And in Henry Nicholls (who is just above Latham if you drop the qualifier to 20 tests) and the argument for this being our best batting line up ever looks pretty solid.

no argument. I thought the fern settled that around January....even more compelling with Raval getting a ton...

@MN5 the allrounder rankings are a sham due to a desperate lack of genuine contenders.

I still reckon we should just play another seamer in NZ conditions. Surely Ferguson will take more wickets than any of those spinners as the 3rd or 4th bowler, probably even enough to make his lower batting average not matter.

@Gunner

There is also a High Performance Centre / Academy by the entrance to Bay Oval. Not everyone keen on the beach though. Ross Taylor went to Hamilton...

By the way, Trevor came to Thailand every year for decades to play in the Chiang Mai sixes. You'd be hard pressed to find a nicer guy.

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@KiwiPie Munro is a really weird one, because if his T20 record was his ODI record, he'd actually be a reasonable ODI batsman.

Average of 33.6; strike rate of 162 - three hundreds and nine fifties from 49 innings.

I'd take that over the untested Henry Nicholls opening.

@Canerbry said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

That's a pretty dark storyline for a movie, dunno if Hollywood would go for that. If you pull it off it's an Oscar winner for sure.

If someone could play the character of David Warner in a sympathetic way they would deserve an Oscar for sure.

@mohikamo said in Other Cricket:

@MN5 said in Other Cricket:

that they lost a series to NZ 1-0 right after that Australian one in 1979/80

Remember that, got a bit nasty.
Crofty taking out the ump.

They were mighty pissed off weren't they ? again, would have ruined the doco to have this carry on in there......

I watched some of that game - mainly to see what Milne was bowling.

He was bowling quick. The commentators said someone had timed the ball from release to the batsman and reckoned he was hitting 151 kmh. Don't know quite how accurate that assessment was, but he certainly was bowling quicker than anyone else I saw.