The Underarm Ball
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@Crucial said in The Underarm Ball:
@Bones said in The Underarm Ball:
Totally legal. At least it will be until someone uses it against England, makes them look silly and they bitch to World Rugby and get a law change.
... and that law change then comes back to bite them in the arse, and they complain about it
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Watched the doco last night - was good to see/hear from Bruce Edgar, Brian McKechnie and Geoff Howarth. Of course we have heard plenty from Sneds and Smithy in recent times who were also interviewed.
I thought Greg Chappell came off as completely detached from reality. For him it was all about being burnt out from the captaincy and the heat. Of course he would continue as captain for three more years and his exploits in India are legendary, but alas.
Kim Hughes is also interviewed and it becomes pretty apparent when they cut between Chappell and Hughes why one was a great Australian captain and one I would enjoy having a beer with.
Also a lot of crocodile tears from Greg (and the director IMO) for the underarm being the only thing Trever is remembered for. Not a mention of McKechnie whose international cricket career is known for this and his AB career is pretty much remember for kicking the Hayden lineout penalty.
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@rotated said in The Underarm Ball:
Watched the doco last night - was good to see/hear from Bruce Edgar, Brian McKechnie and Geoff Howarth. Of course we have heard plenty from Sneds and Smithy in recent times who were also interviewed.
I thought Greg Chappell came off as completely detached from reality. For him it was all about being burnt out from the captaincy and the heat. Of course he would continue as captain for three more years and his exploits in India are legendary, but alas.
Kim Hughes is also interviewed and it becomes pretty apparent when they cut between Chappell and Hughes why one was a great Australian captain and one I would enjoy having a beer with.
Also a lot of crocodile tears from Greg (and the director IMO) for the underarm being the only thing Trever is remembered for. Not a mention of McKechnie whose international cricket career is known for this and his AB career is pretty much remember for kicking the Hayden lineout penalty.
I reckon if you were to ask most aussies , what is Trevor Chappell most remembered for , they would say bowling the underarm ,
if you were ask them what is Brian Mckecknie remembered for , they would say , never heard of him
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@rotated said in The Underarm Ball:
Watched the doco last night - was good to see/hear from Bruce Edgar, Brian McKechnie and Geoff Howarth. Of course we have heard plenty from Sneds and Smithy in recent times who were also interviewed.
I thought Greg Chappell came off as completely detached from reality. For him it was all about being burnt out from the captaincy and the heat. Of course he would continue as captain for three more years and his exploits in India are legendary, but alas.
Kim Hughes is also interviewed and it becomes pretty apparent when they cut between Chappell and Hughes why one was a great Australian captain and one I would enjoy having a beer with.
Also a lot of crocodile tears from Greg (and the director IMO) for the underarm being the only thing Trever is remembered for. Not a mention of McKechnie whose international cricket career is known for this and his AB career is pretty much remember for kicking the Hayden lineout penalty.
Yeah - that was weird, I'd never heard the "I was burnt out, and tired, and just didn't want to play any more, and it was all just some kind of protest" excuse before.... and the director definitely used that as a main narrative point.
Didn't really match with the fact that it didn't prevent further games being played, and he performed rather well in immediately subsequent game(s), and kept the captaincy for another few years.
Greg Chappell - seems to have over-rationalised it in his own head, until quite divorced from reality (amusing that his memory of Geoff Howarth's comments when he walked onto the pitch in the next game... very, very different from Geoff's recollection... and the comment that his memory of it was "the greatest act of sportsmanship he'd been on the receiving end of"... suggesting... there had been greater acts of sportsmanship, which he'd graciously bestowed on others?)
Trevor Chappell - seems like a reasonable enough guy, have heard he jokes about it with McKechnie in private.
Snedden - possibly a little too honest, in admitting that it was great that NZ had something they'd use to hold over Oz's head "for the rest of our lives" -
Chappell didn't hear Rod Marsh's protestations, but remarked in the doco "If someone had been grown up enough" to challenge me it might not have happened.
Says a lot about his attitude to others.I can admire a strong forthright personality but at times he appears slightly demented.
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@Kruse said in The Underarm Ball:
Snedden - possibly a little too honest, in admitting that it was great that NZ had something they'd use to hold over Oz's head "for the rest of our lives"
I thought it was the general comment that it helped popularise cricket more in New Zealand by putting it front and centre and getting non die-hards "fired up" about cricket for one of the first times ever.
Howarth's and Snedden's comments would be analogous to saying it was good Dennis Connor was about for the popularity of America's Cup in the country. Absolute pole-smoker who caused a lot of consternation at the time, but 1995 wouldn't have been nearly as popular (or as sweet) if we hadn't suffered at the hands of him for the better part of a decade.
It's a hero's journey - suffer a great injustice at the first hurdle and people will be more invested in the come back.
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@kiwiinmelb said in The Underarm Ball:
I reckon if you were to ask most aussies , what is Trevor Chappell most remembered for , they would say bowling the underarm ,
if you were ask them what is Brian Mckecknie remembered for , they would say , never heard of him
I'm talking about the sport following public of the respective countries. If you ask the average Aussie on the street they wouldn't be able to tell which Chappell is which - it was thirty years ago.
