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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    Doesn't need it's own thread so this is probably the best spot. Our club had its old boys day, and 40th anniversary over the weekend. Sportsmans lunch on the friday had some interesting guests, including one of the judicial officers responsible for the two significant suspensions/non-suspensions, and one Michael Cheika.

    Cheika was super impressive. Voluntarily gave his time to fly to the middle of nowhere for the afternoon, and talk passionately about rugby. Hearing him speak about the team away from a media trying to goad and lead him places they want to go was great. Pretty open and honest about the state of the team, particularly their fitness. Apparently this was the first year they have turned up for camp in the right shape, thanks to improvements in standards with the super team.

    His chat was not long, but did have a quick chat to him one on one later and i have to say, my opinion has changed.

    I think my favourite story was to do with the jersey. Because he never played test footy, he was at a disadvantage when he came in. He didn't know why they got two jerseys for each test, one for playing, one for swapping. He canned that, dropping it to one. Idea being you have to cherish every test jersey. You want to swap it? Fine, but it's your only one. Just thought it was interesting psychological decision

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    • StargazerS Offline
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      Has Rugby Australia found a new pot of gold or something? How else can they lure players back to Australia? First Matt Toomua, now Luke Jones (although they're not quite in the same category; Jones has only earned 3 test caps)?

      Luke Jones to return to Melbourne in 2019; in Wallabies mix for Spring Tour

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Has Rugby Australia found a new pot of gold or something? How else can they lure players back to Australia? First Matt Toomua, now Luke Jones (although they're not quite in the same category; Jones has only earned 3 test caps)?

        Luke Jones to return to Melbourne in 2019; in Wallabies mix for Spring Tour

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        #745

        @stargazer doubt it very much whether a new pot has been found.

        Keep in mind they ditched a Super team and therefore approximately 20% of contracts.

        Now they're shitting it away on 5 year deals. Skin of their teeth, this lot.

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          Lol now Brett Papworth aka Pappy aka that mouthy fluffybunny who likes to lob grenades at anything that isn't 1980s and 90s club rugby as a development system is spruiking a new structure.

          Unsurprisingly, Alan Jones is involved, along with some other old farts who are like minded.

          They quoted the current president of RUPA (Tahs hooker Damien Fitzpatrick) as supporting them, which turned out like this:

          0_1538521760606_IMG_20181003_090855.jpg

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          • NTAN NTA

            Lol now Brett Papworth aka Pappy aka that mouthy fluffybunny who likes to lob grenades at anything that isn't 1980s and 90s club rugby as a development system is spruiking a new structure.

            Unsurprisingly, Alan Jones is involved, along with some other old farts who are like minded.

            They quoted the current president of RUPA (Tahs hooker Damien Fitzpatrick) as supporting them, which turned out like this:

            0_1538521760606_IMG_20181003_090855.jpg

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            #747

            @nta

            They need to work on their press releases. The Papworth letter was very long without much content

            So basically they want power to go back to the clubs? Whats the new org they talk about creating? Is this a coup to set up a rival ARU?

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            • jeggaJ Offline
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              #748

              Wasn’t Pappsmear floating something similar a few years back?

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              • NTAN Offline
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                Yeah every year or two when shit goes south for the wobs.

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                  @nta

                  They need to work on their press releases. The Papworth letter was very long without much content

                  So basically they want power to go back to the clubs? Whats the new org they talk about creating? Is this a coup to set up a rival ARU?

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                  @duluth said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                  @nta

                  They need to work on their press releases. The Papworth letter was very long without much content

                  So basically they want power to go back to the clubs? Whats the new org they talk about creating? Is this a coup to set up a rival ARU?

                  No, it's a bullshit, empty promise of the old guard who think that what worked back in the 90s will be just fine today and into tomorrow.

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                    #751

                    Ouch

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-wallabies-have-reached-the-peak-of-delusion/

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                      #752

                      Meh. Nothing that isn't known.

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                      • NTAN NTA

                        Meh. Nothing that isn't known.

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                        @nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        Meh. Nothing that isn't known.

                        I think the point is that it either isn't known by those that count or they are incapable of doing anything about it.

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                        • M Machpants

                          Ouch

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-wallabies-have-reached-the-peak-of-delusion/

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                          @machpants said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                          Ouch

                          https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-wallabies-have-reached-the-peak-of-delusion/

                          Ok so if Temuera Morrison is playing Eddie Jones who will play Krusty in a movie about the wallabies?

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                          • CrucialC Crucial

                            @nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                            Meh. Nothing that isn't known.

                            I think the point is that it either isn't known by those that count or they are incapable of doing anything about it.

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                            @crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                            @nta said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                            Meh. Nothing that isn't known.

                            I think the point is that it either isn't known by those that count or they are incapable of doing anything about it.

                            We've learned the hard way (2007) that blaming refs and other factors only gets you so far. At some point you have to be brutally honest about the failings before you can start fixing them. Papering over cracks does not work long term.

                            There were some fair points in the (harsh) article. At the heart, though, is the point NTA keeps making - Aus does not have a setup that develops proper, test ready rugby players. NZ Cricket suffers from this too. NZ Rugby and Aus Cricket don't - they have the player base and coaching setups to keep on throwing up outstanding players, time after time.

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                            • jeggaJ jegga

                              @machpants said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                              Ouch

                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-wallabies-have-reached-the-peak-of-delusion/

                              Ok so if Temuera Morrison is playing Eddie Jones who will play Krusty in a movie about the wallabies?

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                              #756

                              @jegga how would it even be up for debate? Cliff Curtis is assigned all Maori/Mexican/Pakistani/Arabian/Persian roles for the foreseeable future.

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                                mikedogz
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                                #757

                                Wee fulla came out of it alright, nearly got fallen on by mum.

                                https://www.facebook.com/cookierugby/videos/198833571010704/

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                                  Just in case you see the name Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in a future Wallabies squad: it's not a new player.

                                  Lukhan Tui has legally changed his name to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto to honour his late stepfather.
                                  

                                  http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/10/31/lukhan-tui-changes-name-to-salakaia-loto

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    Just in case you see the name Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in a future Wallabies squad: it's not a new player.

                                    Lukhan Tui has legally changed his name to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto to honour his late stepfather.
                                    

                                    http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/10/31/lukhan-tui-changes-name-to-salakaia-loto

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                                    mariner4life
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                                    #759

                                    @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                    Just in case you see the name Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in a future Wallabies squad: it's not a new player.

                                    Lukhan Tui has legally changed his name to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto to honour his late stepfather.
                                    

                                    http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/10/31/lukhan-tui-changes-name-to-salakaia-loto

                                    yes! I can't wait to hear Tim Horan absolutely mangle that

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      Just in case you see the name Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in a future Wallabies squad: it's not a new player.

                                      Lukhan Tui has legally changed his name to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto to honour his late stepfather.
                                      

                                      http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/10/31/lukhan-tui-changes-name-to-salakaia-loto

                                      yes! I can't wait to hear Tim Horan absolutely mangle that

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                                      antipodean
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                                      @mariner4life said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      @stargazer said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                      Just in case you see the name Lukhan Salakaia-Loto in a future Wallabies squad: it's not a new player.

                                      Lukhan Tui has legally changed his name to Lukhan Salakaia-Loto to honour his late stepfather.
                                      

                                      http://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/10/31/lukhan-tui-changes-name-to-salakaia-loto

                                      yes! I can't wait to hear Tim Horan absolutely mangle that

                                      Loo-can salah-ki-ya-low-toe

                                      I'd put money on that.

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                                      • jeggaJ Offline
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                                        jegga
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                                        I thought he was already given an ultimatum before the rc ?

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12153393

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                                        • jeggaJ jegga

                                          I thought he was already given an ultimatum before the rc ?

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12153393

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                                          @jegga So no message, just platitudes about expecting to win all their matches. What a waste of electrons.

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