Stadium of Canterbury
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Is this thing built yet?
@antipodean i think theyre still only doing enabling works...its years away id say
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Costs rising by the month (steel alone - reinforcing, structural and fixings - worldwide will be up around 25% from a couple of months ago, come next month), means the scope can only shrink and remarkably the CCC are still fucking around trying to buy a building on the fucking site.
When is some c*nt in a position of power or with a public profile going to finally call these useless fucks out over their inordinately dumb idea to build an indoor stadium with the budget at hand??
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@duluth How can a city be "really comfortable" with capacity less than a
citytown a third its population?@antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr
i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games
I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k
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mr google told me
The North and South stands have a permanent seating capacity of approximately 20,000 spectators of which 18,000 are Alloyfold’s Albany stadium chairs.
this does not include the zoo or west stand only xtra seating not up permanently is east stand so 25000 ? permanent seating
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@antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr
i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games
I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr
i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games
I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k
This seating plan suggests your numbers are off:
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean Forsyth Barr only has 15k permanent seats and only gets to capacity for AB games. so for 90% of games this stadium is going to have 10k MORE seats than forsyth barr
i think that works as far as permanent seats but they should work on upping the number of temp ones they can add for AB games
I also look at the current "temporary stadium", in the years i lived in chch i never struggled to get a ticket for AB games and that only have a max capacity of 25k
This seating plan suggests your numbers are off:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
@ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats
even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners
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@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
@ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats
even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
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@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
@ploughboy i just went off the wiki which gave the minimum seating as 15k which i had assumed was the permanent seats
even if those numbers were off, the zoo is almost never full...so if anything we're saying they probably went too big in dunners
west stand can be added to per permanent now as is always up
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
@antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year
also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full
and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too
designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games
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@antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year
also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full
and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too
designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year
also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full
and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too
designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games
In an era where NZR is still committed to allowing regions outside of Auckland to host All Black fixtures the respective seating capacity is relevant. Furthermore, the design of Forsyth-Barr lends itself to other uses than merely a football stadium/ concert venue. Regardless of how permanent the seats are, the capacity of a smaller town makes a mockery of Christchurch's small ambitions.
I'm not surprised it isn't difficult to get tickets to sit at league park to freeze at night. We're talking about a new inner-city stadium that won't be replaced for decades.
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@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean east and west aren't permanent, only the north and south :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:
So what if they can remove seating as part of the configuration?
i only raise it because you were saying the chch one is going to have a smaller capacity where really its going to be bigger 90% of the time and comparable (about 30k) for big games that happen once or twice a year
also why i added it would be good if they could look at upping the temp seats, personally i think thats better than having a huge stadium thats rarely full
and comparing to dunedin that is often not even half full is like saying you want to waste money on a white elephant too
designing to suit the crowds chch gets seems lie a logical way to approach it and as i said ive never struggled to get tickets to games in chch and thats only 18-20k most of the time and 25K for big games
In an era where NZR is still committed to allowing regions outside of Auckland to host All Black fixtures the respective seating capacity is relevant. Furthermore, the design of Forsyth-Barr lends itself to other uses than merely a football stadium/ concert venue. Regardless of how permanent the seats are, the capacity of a smaller town makes a mockery of Christchurch's small ambitions.
I'm not surprised it isn't difficult to get tickets to sit at league park to freeze at night. We're talking about a new inner-city stadium that won't be replaced for decades.
@antipodean and that might be the difference
my experience in chch was you were either a rugby fan that was happy to go to the stadium to watch or you weren't. I never really got met many people that didn't go and would have if it was a better stadium, after the initial novelty that im sure will come with the stadium when it first opens og course.
im sure there are some but i never met many and so im much more inclined to look at the crowds they currently get and then add a bit
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@antipodean and that might be the difference
my experience in chch was you were either a rugby fan that was happy to go to the stadium to watch or you weren't. I never really got met many people that didn't go and would have if it was a better stadium, after the initial novelty that im sure will come with the stadium when it first opens og course.
im sure there are some but i never met many and so im much more inclined to look at the crowds they currently get and then add a bit
@kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:
@antipodean and that might be the difference
my experience in chch was you were either a rugby fan that was happy to go to the stadium to watch or you weren't. I never really got met many people that didn't go and would have if it was a better stadium, after the initial novelty that im sure will come with the stadium when it first opens og course.
im sure there are some but i never met many and so im much more inclined to look at the crowds they currently get and then add a bit
One aspect is that newer stadiums are generally more comfortable and kid friendly. May entice some people that are on the fence to come to more games if they aren't freezing to death and queuing forever for food and toilets.
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I'll just point out people are much more likely to utilise a stadium that is well serviced by supporting infrastructure (pubs, restaurants, etc.), easily accessible and one where you don't need to wear a doona to watch a game.
For example there are people who simply won't go to watch the Brumbies because of the stadium.
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look, your right, there will be people that dont go or dont go as often as they might because of the current stadium.
for me jumping the day to day capacity from 18k at the current one to 25k might well address that for the majority of games
