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All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.

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    See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

    While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

    Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

    The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

    Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

    Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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      #994

      actually, there are no longer pages, just one big long one....sheesh, get it right :rolling_eyes:

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      • barbarianB barbarian

        See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

        While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

        Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

        The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

        Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

        Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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        @barbarian said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

        Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

        Ahhh Touché

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        • barbarianB barbarian

          See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

          While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

          Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

          The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

          Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

          Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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          @barbarian I'm not surprised about the lack of coverage. Australia has a knack of moving on from losses very quickly, something NZ could do with at times

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          • barbarianB barbarian

            See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

            While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

            Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

            The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

            Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

            Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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            @barbarian TBF, the fact there was the interview with him, that specifically mentioned it, are you surprised it was posted?

            If in 8 years someone did interview Owens and he specifically mentions this call, I expect some in Aus would take notice of it.

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            • barbarianB barbarian

              See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

              While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

              Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

              The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

              Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

              Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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              @barbarian

              I never denied it!

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              • barbarianB barbarian

                See the thing is we've now had 15 pages of you guys frothing about Aussie 'whingeing'. Admit it - you fucking LOVE IT.

                While you may complain, and cry out 'look at these losers' and turn the outrage meter up to 11, it warms the cockles of your dark Kiwi souls.

                Here is a little bit of reality, though. Other than the Kafer article, the response here in the media is largely... silence. It's the Tuesday after the game, and I think in your heads our papers are full of ranting and raving from pundits about Owens costing us the match. But it isn't.

                The SMH today had two rugby articles. One about the NH tour, and one (shock!) from NZ about Cheika losing the plot, and how he needs to reign it in. The News press had one article about Cheika's tactics which was more positive, but did include the phrase "The Wallabies don’t have the same class and depth as the All Blacks so they need fire and brimstone, and importantly, confidence."

                Fortunately (or unfortunately) there just isn't the outrage factor.

                Put it this way, I don't think we will be posting an interview with Nigel Owens in 9 years time on these boards, with people still disecting the decisions he made in that game...

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                @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                And I certainly agree with them.

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                  And I certainly agree with them.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                  @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                  And I certainly agree with them.

                  Yeah that whole "our game, toughest fucken athletes on the fucken planet maaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttteeeeeeee" shit that spouts from NRL media folk gets really tiresome.

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                    @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                    And I certainly agree with them.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                    @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                    And I certainly agree with them.

                    At the same time, in QLD is writing "best thing for the game here" articles in relation to Cheika firing up.

                    No such thing as bad publicity?

                    http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby/world-rugby-could-benefit-from-transtasman-bad-blood-writes-robert-craddock/news-story/27a90118afd9842b67d9008a86e29644

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                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                      @barbarian it was funny listening to Melbourne sports radio this morning (SEN) and they have this "who's on the struggle bus this week" segment. They had Michael Cheika. They were ferrying stuck into his comments and didn't buy into the ABs are responsible for the clown cartoon. Yes it's a predominantly AFL radio station, but the morning guys know their sport beyond AFL and aren't like NRL folks that want to talk any other sport down to boost their one.

                      And I certainly agree with them.

                      At the same time, in QLD is writing "best thing for the game here" articles in relation to Cheika firing up.

                      No such thing as bad publicity?

                      http://www.news.com.au/sport/rugby/world-rugby-could-benefit-from-transtasman-bad-blood-writes-robert-craddock/news-story/27a90118afd9842b67d9008a86e29644

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                      @NTA in Oz for rugby I'd agree anything that generates interest is good. I remember John O'Neills antics, of course the wobs were better onfield in those days

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                        I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                        It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                        Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

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                        • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                          I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                          It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                          Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

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                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                          I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                          It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                          Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

                          I think people are far more likely to tune in if there is genuine bad blood between the two sides, for sure.

                          Where here Cheika can be seen as a 'petulant child', in some quarters in Aus he is seen as finally throwing a punch back after years of being belted by NZ. Sure he went off the deep end a bit, but I think people would rather that than a meek 'they are the Champions' surrender.

                          And we'll get over Bodyline when you get over Underarm.

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                          • barbarianB barbarian

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                            I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                            It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                            Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

                            I think people are far more likely to tune in if there is genuine bad blood between the two sides, for sure.

                            Where here Cheika can be seen as a 'petulant child', in some quarters in Aus he is seen as finally throwing a punch back after years of being belted by NZ. Sure he went off the deep end a bit, but I think people would rather that than a meek 'they are the Champions' surrender.

                            And we'll get over Bodyline when you get over Underarm.

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                            @barbarian said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                            I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsenses. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                            It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                            Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

                            I think people are far more likely to tune in if there is genuine bad blood between the two sides, for sure.

                            Where here Cheika can be seen as a 'petulant child', in some quarters in Aus he is seen as finally throwing a punch back after years of being belted by NZ. Sure he went off the deep end a bit, but I think people would rather that than a meek 'they are the Champions' surrender.

                            And we'll get over Bodyline when you get over Underarm.

                            Throwing a punch back? C'mon, that's weak. Throwing a punch back is winning on the field not having a cry about a newspaper article. Its not about kowtowing to the abs it's about acting like a grown up. Surely even you see the difference.

                            You've got 50 years on us with bodyline plus a mini-series. Nice try though.

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                              I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it has been perceived in some quarters. I think he went a bit too far, sure.

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                                Oh bless, someone brought up 2007. How cute.

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                                  Oh bless, someone brought up 2007. How cute.

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                  Oh bless, someone brought up 2007. How cute.

                                  Hey someone brought up Bodyline, so 2007 seems like yesterday!

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                                    Biggest issue with having a polarising figure like Cheika is when it comes to sponsors. If Cheika insists on being the sole mouthpiece for the Wallabies and continues until the next round of sponsorship negotiations (Qantas up in 2019) it would be very possible to see that Qantas money turn into Tiger Airlines money if the results on the field continue and he is putting up this kind of performance.

                                    I personally don't think he makes it to 2019 for a raft of reasons - not least of which is I've never seen a coach go off like that and have any sort of tenure.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      actually, there are no longer pages, just one big long one....sheesh, get it right :rolling_eyes:

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                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                      actually, there are no longer pages, just one big long one....sheesh, get it right :rolling_eyes:

                                      You can set it to be pages. I did coz I confuse easily.

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                                      • barbarianB barbarian

                                        I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it has been perceived in some quarters. I think he went a bit too far, sure.

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                                        @barbarian said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                        I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it has been perceived in some quarters. I think he went a bit too far, sure.

                                        I'm sure there are some that think he's God, but I simply don't see how his behaviour is good for Australian rugby. It's bad enough that the team is losing and I don't see any benefit for the game from Cheika throwing his toys out of the cot.

                                        One thing I'm not sure about is this "us vs them" attitude. I can't recall that ever being the modus operandi of the great Aus teams. I remember the difference when that 98 team took the field. They weren't all pumped up like the previous year, they had their heads down and were focussed. You could see it in their eyes. That will ultimately bring success, not trying to get the players to froth at the mouth before each game.

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                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                                          It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                                          Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

                                          I think people are far more likely to tune in if there is genuine bad blood between the two sides, for sure.

                                          Where here Cheika can be seen as a 'petulant child', in some quarters in Aus he is seen as finally throwing a punch back after years of being belted by NZ. Sure he went off the deep end a bit, but I think people would rather that than a meek 'they are the Champions' surrender.

                                          And we'll get over Bodyline when you get over Underarm.

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                                          @barbarian said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:

                                          I don't buy this "all publicity is good publicity" nonsense. I find it pretty ridiculous that the Aus coach being reported on in the press for acting like a petulant child can be construed as a good thing. Reckon that'll get more kids to sign up, get more people to buy Wallaby kit?

                                          It shows the depths to which the game has fallen in Aus that this can somehow be viewed as a positive.

                                          Oh yeah and if you want to criticise about sporting whines, try getting over bodyline first.

                                          I think people are far more likely to tune in if there is genuine bad blood between the two sides, for sure.

                                          Where here Cheika can be seen as a 'petulant child', in some quarters in Aus he is seen as finally throwing a punch back after years of being belted by NZ. Sure he went off the deep end a bit, but I think people would rather that than a meek 'they are the Champions' surrender.

                                          And we'll get over Bodyline when you get over Underarm.

                                          50 years difference ...

                                          Bob Deans may be a closer comparison (fucking Welsh .. )

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