All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.
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I think our forward pack needs to bring more physicality. Iaone for the EOYT and lets put PT in that reserve pack and start blooding him. They were dominated for 50 minutes and that just can not happen. Had that try been awarded to Oz it may have been different. I think Speight was gone. It was just stupid of Petty to run the line he did. He didn't have to and it was an obvious deviation. While Todd did some good stuff he does not have the physical presence close to Cane and remember he was run through by the Aussie lock who scored. I think there were too many people creaming themselves about his performance. Our reserve props added more physicality than the starters. They stopped momentum instead of tackling and been carried back 5 to 10 yards. With TJP there was a bit of a delay in the pass. He was not shit though and with the bad you get the intangibles and the charge down an example. Plus he was doing plenty of tackling that the forwards were not.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
The no try: I watched this game with an American mate whose been getting into the game lately, he's a big (US) Football fan and when that idiot Oz winger took Savea out he actually said that he thought that was one of the rules of rugby, that you couldn't block.
FFS, maybe it was harsh on the Aussies but the fact is he interfered with a defender without the ball. It doesn't matter that the defender was behind the player (the cry baby Oz commentators* seem to think you can take anyone out behind the player) you still can't interfere with them. I don't know why anyone would try and claim it's ok to do that to a defender. It was stupid play by Hallet-Petty, Cheika should man up and lay the blame on his player who did a stupid thing.
*Kafer - you used to be the best analyst going around, now you've just turned it to a facsimilie of the crybaby whinger Kearns.
.... .I understand the Laws of Rugby state:
"10.1 (c) Blocking the tackler. A player must not intentionally move or stand in a position that prevents an opponent from tackling a ball carrier."
This YouTube video features the disallowed try and a head on view shows Haylett-Petty moved in a manner which offends 10.1 (c).
The words don't speak about the tackler's prospects of making the tackle, whether he is too far behind to catch up or anything else, other than "intentionally move or stand".
PS. I see Foley walked back to take the kick and past Referee Owens, who explained he was looking at something further to do with the try. Foley throws his head back and says what sounds like "Oh fire-truck", which highlights a problem with the Qantas Harmless Wallabies. Owens had communicated politely and informatively and did not warrant that response.
They have no regard or respect for the authority of the referee, which is at the very least stupid, stupid, stupid. It's not as if they are the lords of the manor, strutting triumphantly, who can treat the hired help with disdain.
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
PS. I see Foley walked back to take the kick and past Referee Owens, who explained he was looking at something further to do with the try. Foley throws his head back and says what sounds like "Oh fire-truck", which highlights a problem with the Qantas Harmless Wallabies. Owens had communicated politely and informatively and did not warrant that response.
They have no regard or respect for the authority of the referee, which is at the very least stupid, stupid, stupid. It's not as if they are the lords of the manor, strutting triumphantly, who can treat the hired help with disdain.
This is the kind of thing I'm talking about that rubs off from the coach.
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@Winger said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Hansen's a fool.
And that would be because ... ?
@booboo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Winger said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Hansen's a fool.
And that would be because ... ?
He can't spell his own name?
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I think our forward pack needs to bring more physicality. Iaone for the EOYT and lets put PT in that reserve pack and start blooding him. They were dominated for 50 minutes and that just can not happen. Had that try been awarded to Oz it may have been different. I think Speight was gone. It was just stupid of Petty to run the line he did. He didn't have to and it was an obvious deviation. While Todd did some good stuff he does not have the physical presence close to Cane and remember he was run through by the Aussie lock who scored. I think there were too many people creaming themselves about his performance. Our reserve props added more physicality than the starters. They stopped momentum instead of tackling and been carried back 5 to 10 yards. With TJP there was a bit of a delay in the pass. He was not shit though and with the bad you get the intangibles and the charge down an example. Plus he was doing plenty of tackling that the forwards were not.
@broughie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
I think our forward pack needs to bring more physicality. Iaone for the EOYT and lets put PT in that reserve pack and start blooding him. They were dominated for 50 minutes and that just can not happen. Had that try been awarded to Oz it may have been different. I think Speight was gone. It was just stupid of Petty to run the line he did. He didn't have to and it was an obvious deviation. While Todd did some good stuff he does not have the physical presence close to Cane and remember he was run through by the Aussie lock who scored. I think there were too many people creaming themselves about his performance. Our reserve props added more physicality than the starters. They stopped momentum instead of tackling and been carried back 5 to 10 yards. With TJP there was a bit of a delay in the pass. He was not shit though and with the bad you get the intangibles and the charge down an example. Plus he was doing plenty of tackling that the forwards were not.
Yes! to the Props being awesome
Without TJP in that first half, we would've been only up 10-7, and maybe down more, because he was into everything.
I think I almost prefer TJP if the game is going to be combative like that. I'm not sure Aaron Smith is the automatic walk-up start anymore. TJP combo with BB important too. -
I think our forward pack needs to bring more physicality. Iaone for the EOYT and lets put PT in that reserve pack and start blooding him. They were dominated for 50 minutes and that just can not happen. Had that try been awarded to Oz it may have been different. I think Speight was gone. It was just stupid of Petty to run the line he did. He didn't have to and it was an obvious deviation. While Todd did some good stuff he does not have the physical presence close to Cane and remember he was run through by the Aussie lock who scored. I think there were too many people creaming themselves about his performance. Our reserve props added more physicality than the starters. They stopped momentum instead of tackling and been carried back 5 to 10 yards. With TJP there was a bit of a delay in the pass. He was not shit though and with the bad you get the intangibles and the charge down an example. Plus he was doing plenty of tackling that the forwards were not.
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
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How much of a victim is Cheika?!?!
He is the Winger of Aussie rugby. Everything is a conspiracy.
I feel a bit sorry for him that he has a train of thought like that. He must be a very simple person
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
How much of a victim is Cheika?!?!
He is the Winger of Aussie rugby. Everything is a conspiracy.
I feel a bit sorry for him that he has a train of thought like that. He must be a very simple person
I think he belongs in the same catagory as Woodward, just an absolutely phenomenal lack of self awareness .
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@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
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Didn't look forward to me
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Didn't look forward to me
Didn't look forward to Veldsman either.
I forgot that one.
Change my previous post to "Three TMO decisions. First one right. Second and third wrong ... "
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@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA maybe it is an act designed to shield his players; I'm not convinced
Well, the Kiwi journalists were lapping it up, based on what they were asking during the AB presser.
So the talk on this side of the ditch will be about the no-try. And the positives, maybe.
Over your way I'm sure the NZH or stuff already have something up about DUSRISPICT!!! Followed by half a dozen pages of ejaculations regarding world records etc and whether it will stop at 25 (to take out those pesky Cypriots once and for all), or get to triple figures.
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA maybe it is an act designed to shield his players; I'm not convinced
Well, the Kiwi journalists were lapping it up, based on what they were asking during the AB presser.
So the talk on this side of the ditch will be about the no-try. And the positives, maybe.
Over your way I'm sure the NZH or stuff already have something up about DUSRISPICT!!! Followed by half a dozen pages of ejaculations regarding world records etc and whether it will stop at 25 (to take out those pesky Cypriots once and for all), or get to triple figures.
Cool. An accent joke. That's new and refreshing.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Read choosing to kick the ball out at the end is one of the strangest decisions I have seen from this AB team.
Game won. Record achieved. Tour coming up. Why bother?
Also I thought Nige had his arm up for our scrum? What happened after that? The family got home at that point.
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@akan004 said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
Read choosing to kick the ball out at the end is one of the strangest decisions I have seen from this AB team.
Game won. Record achieved. Tour coming up. Why bother?
Also I thought Nige had his arm up for our scrum? What happened after that? The family got home at that point.
He stuck the wrong arm up. Said so. Apologised for confusion.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.
@westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.
I'm always at a loss that no one in the Wallabies camp has manned up and told Mumm that when you have such a dopey looking visage, acting the tough guy just makes you look like the local 'tard with behavioural issues.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA maybe it is an act designed to shield his players; I'm not convinced
Well, the Kiwi journalists were lapping it up, based on what they were asking during the AB presser.
So the talk on this side of the ditch will be about the no-try. And the positives, maybe.
Over your way I'm sure the NZH or stuff already have something up about DUSRISPICT!!! Followed by half a dozen pages of ejaculations regarding world records etc and whether it will stop at 25 (to take out those pesky Cypriots once and for all), or get to triple figures.
Cool. An accent joke. That's new and refreshing.
@Smudge said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@canefan said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@NTA maybe it is an act designed to shield his players; I'm not convinced
Well, the Kiwi journalists were lapping it up, based on what they were asking during the AB presser.
So the talk on this side of the ditch will be about the no-try. And the positives, maybe.
Over your way I'm sure the NZH or stuff already have something up about DUSRISPICT!!! Followed by half a dozen pages of ejaculations regarding world records etc and whether it will stop at 25 (to take out those pesky Cypriots once and for all), or get to triple figures.
Cool. An accent joke. That's new and refreshing.
They never get old , we have a lot of sheep here in NZ . I would have thought there would have a lot of scope there for bestiality jokes . Anyone?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate whether Julian woulda got him or not is irrelevant, hecwas in a position to attempt and was denied by a dumb pointless move by dhp.
Oh and I'd be furious too if we were on the end of that...but IMO still correct in the rule book
If you want to look at the Laws, Savea grabbed DHP's shirt first as he turned to chase. First offence, play advantage, try awarded
@NTA said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@reprobate whether Julian woulda got him or not is irrelevant, hecwas in a position to attempt and was denied by a dumb pointless move by dhp.
Oh and I'd be furious too if we were on the end of that...but IMO still correct in the rule book
If you want to look at the Laws, Savea grabbed DHP's shirt first as he turned to chase. First offence, play advantage, try awarded
Nice try. Two offences. First offence (if indeed it did occur). Penalty Wobs.
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@westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.
I'm always at a loss that no one in the Wallabies camp has manned up and told Mumm that when you have such a dopey looking visage, acting the tough guy just makes you look like the local 'tard with behavioural issues.
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@westcoastie said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Wallabies at Eden Park.:
@broughie who gets dropped for Akira?
I think he is quite a way off being test ready.
I just scanned through the game as I recall a head butt from Hooper, anything come from it?
It was pretty tame but still, I have seen that get carded before. Crotty also got a hefty kick to the face at one point that may not have been deliberate but was 'deliberately reckless'. A swinging leg toward the head of a player near the ball.
Did you see my post regards Mumm elbows Retallick about 52.40. There was a few niggly off the ball things, equally I took delete in Coles smacking Mumms head into the turf after tackling that mutant giraffe.
I'm always at a loss that no one in the Wallabies camp has manned up and old Mumm that when you have such a dopey looking visage, acting the tough guy just makes you look like the local 'tard with behavioural issues.
"Look like"?
