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All Blacks v Italy

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Amazing that Luke McLean has played 81 tests. I remember when this guy was running around in Perth. Well done to him.

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      I think it'll be something like:

      Crockett, Taylor, Faumuina
      BBBR, Barrett
      Cane, Squire, Luatua
      Smith, Sopoaga
      ALB, Fekitoa (12)
      Naholo, DMac, Ioane

      Coltman, Moody, Ofa T, Todd, Dixon, TKB, Cruden, Seta T

      Not sure where Pat T fits in overall thinking. Based on Saturday I'm not convinced he's a test starter. Has Sopoaga ever played fullback -- there would be an argument for Dagg in the 23?

      Then Ireland

      Crockett, Coles, Franks
      BBBR, Whitelock
      Cane, Kaino, Read
      Smith, Cruden
      ALB, Fekitoa
      Savea, Smith, Dagg

      Taylor, Moody, Faumuina, Barrett/Pat T/Luatua, Savea/Dixon, TJP, Barrett, Seta T/Ioane/Naholo

      Whether or not Whitelock fully fit a big issue here. He and BBBR allow us to have two loosies on bench. Any doubts and we need a lock, or perhaps Luatua there. The latter allows a specialist 7. If a lock on bench, then Dixon's versatility a big plus.

      Other issue is midfield cover. This would probably argue for Tamanivalu. But Ioane a chance depending on how Italy goes. Naholo has also been mooted as cover???

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        I think it'll be something like:

        Crockett, Taylor, Faumuina
        BBBR, Barrett
        Cane, Squire, Luatua
        Smith, Sopoaga
        ALB, Fekitoa (12)
        Naholo, DMac, Ioane

        Coltman, Moody, Ofa T, Todd, Dixon, TKB, Cruden, Seta T

        Not sure where Pat T fits in overall thinking. Based on Saturday I'm not convinced he's a test starter. Has Sopoaga ever played fullback -- there would be an argument for Dagg in the 23?

        Then Ireland

        Crockett, Coles, Franks
        BBBR, Whitelock
        Cane, Kaino, Read
        Smith, Cruden
        ALB, Fekitoa
        Savea, Smith, Dagg

        Taylor, Moody, Faumuina, Barrett/Pat T/Luatua, Savea/Dixon, TJP, Barrett, Seta T/Ioane/Naholo

        Whether or not Whitelock fully fit a big issue here. He and BBBR allow us to have two loosies on bench. Any doubts and we need a lock, or perhaps Luatua there. The latter allows a specialist 7. If a lock on bench, then Dixon's versatility a big plus.

        Other issue is midfield cover. This would probably argue for Tamanivalu. But Ioane a chance depending on how Italy goes. Naholo has also been mooted as cover???

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        #34

        There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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        • A akan004

          There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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          #35

          @akan004 this is what I get from that video.

          2 Taylor/Coltman
          5 Barrett
          6 Dixon

          8 Luatua
          9 TKB

          11/14 Ioane
          15 McKenzie

          21 Smith

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            No Quarter
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            That's a bloody cryptic way of naming the team! They like to keep us guessing don't they...

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              Getting snipets of info, sounds like Dagg has been selected as well.

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              • A akan004

                There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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                @akan004 it goes something like...

                1. W. Crockett
                2. C. Taylor
                3. O. Franks
                4. L. Romano
                5. S. Barrett
                6. E. Dixon
                7. M. Todd
                8. K. Read
                9. T. Cane
                10. T. Lander
                11. T. Blue
                12. A. Lienert-Brown
                13. S. Tamanivalu
                14. I. Dagg
                15. D. McKenzie
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                  http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/796117598572187649

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @akan004 it goes something like...

                    1. W. Crockett
                    2. C. Taylor
                    3. O. Franks
                    4. L. Romano
                    5. S. Barrett
                    6. E. Dixon
                    7. M. Todd
                    8. K. Read
                    9. T. Cane
                    10. T. Lander
                    11. T. Blue
                    12. A. Lienert-Brown
                    13. S. Tamanivalu
                    14. I. Dagg
                    15. D. McKenzie
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                    #40

                    @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                      It's 2.55am in Italy. The team can be named any minute now!

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                        @mariner4life said in v Italy:

                        @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                          All Blacks team named:

                          1.Wyatt Crockett (55)
                          2.Codie Taylor (12)
                          3.Charlie Faumuina (43)
                          4.Patrick Tuipulotu (11)
                          5.Scott Barrett (1)
                          6.Elliot Dixon (2)
                          7.Sam Cane - captain (38)
                          8.Steven Luatua (14)
                          9.Tawera Kerr-Barlow (24)
                          10.Aaron Cruden (44)
                          11.Waisake Naholo (9)
                          12.Anton Lienert-Brown (6)
                          13.Malakai Fekitoa (21)
                          14.Israel Dagg (58)
                          15.Damian McKenzie (1)

                          16.Liam Coltman *
                          17.Joe Moody (21)
                          18.Ofa Tu'ungafasi (3)
                          19.Brodie Retallick (57)
                          20.Matt Todd (6)
                          21.Aaron Smith (55)
                          22.Lima Sopoaga (5)
                          23.Rieko Ioane *

                          *new caps

                          http://www.allblacks.com/News/30100/all-blacks-team-named-for-test-against-italy

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                            haha shit team. we're fucked. 0-2 on the tour to start.

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                              wow!

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                                #46

                                So from the travelling squad being rested are: Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Jerome Kaino, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Kieran Read, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith

                                Unavailable: Luke Romano

                                Injured: Sam Whitelock, Ryan Crotty, George Moala

                                I wouldn't be surprised if Ioane comes on for McKenzie, with Dagg going to fullback, just to keep some experience in the backline (unless they move Cruden when Sops comes on, instead of subbing him off). Otherwise A Smith would be the only experienced player in the entire backline in the second half. I can't remember Ioane ever playing on the left wing?

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                                  Geez, Italy may be the weakest of the 6 Nations, but they're playing no 13 in the world rankings, not 31. Are they underestimating the Italians?

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                                    I think there will be some nervous moments on Sunday morning. Don't mind the front row, but the 4-8 has me just a little concerned.

                                    9-10 a good combo but I can't say either are in any great form. New midfield combo and a back three that have never been on the park together.

                                    Don't mind the bench so much and will look forward to seeing Ioane get a run at some stage (hopefully on the wing).

                                    There will be a bit of pressure on the likes of Cane, Cruden and Dagg to step up and show leadership.

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                                      So from the travelling squad being rested are: Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Jerome Kaino, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Kieran Read, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith

                                      Unavailable: Luke Romano

                                      Injured: Sam Whitelock, Ryan Crotty, George Moala

                                      I wouldn't be surprised if Ioane comes on for McKenzie, with Dagg going to fullback, just to keep some experience in the backline (unless they move Cruden when Sops comes on, instead of subbing him off). Otherwise A Smith would be the only experienced player in the entire backline in the second half. I can't remember Ioane ever playing on the left wing?

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                                      @Stargazer Are Fifita, Tamanivalu, Jordie Barrett not travelling?

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                                        Our success so far this year has been built on 2,4,5,8,9,10,13 and 15. None of those guys are playing, except ALB, and he's in a different spot. Each game has been similar, we stretch and stretch until one of those blokes blows the game open. Who is doing that this week?

                                        That's NZ A, not the All Blacks. In a full strength side, 2 of those would start (and Dagg might not if we had everyone fit). This is a huge gamble.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Stargazer Are Fifita, Tamanivalu, Jordie Barrett not travelling?

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                                          @ACT-Crusader Correct. They have just not been picked, so didn't fit in "injured", "unavailable" or "being rested". Where Squire and A Savea fit is not clear. Not sure whether they needed the rest.

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