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  • P pakman

    I think it'll be something like:

    Crockett, Taylor, Faumuina
    BBBR, Barrett
    Cane, Squire, Luatua
    Smith, Sopoaga
    ALB, Fekitoa (12)
    Naholo, DMac, Ioane

    Coltman, Moody, Ofa T, Todd, Dixon, TKB, Cruden, Seta T

    Not sure where Pat T fits in overall thinking. Based on Saturday I'm not convinced he's a test starter. Has Sopoaga ever played fullback -- there would be an argument for Dagg in the 23?

    Then Ireland

    Crockett, Coles, Franks
    BBBR, Whitelock
    Cane, Kaino, Read
    Smith, Cruden
    ALB, Fekitoa
    Savea, Smith, Dagg

    Taylor, Moody, Faumuina, Barrett/Pat T/Luatua, Savea/Dixon, TJP, Barrett, Seta T/Ioane/Naholo

    Whether or not Whitelock fully fit a big issue here. He and BBBR allow us to have two loosies on bench. Any doubts and we need a lock, or perhaps Luatua there. The latter allows a specialist 7. If a lock on bench, then Dixon's versatility a big plus.

    Other issue is midfield cover. This would probably argue for Tamanivalu. But Ioane a chance depending on how Italy goes. Naholo has also been mooted as cover???

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    There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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      There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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      #35

      @akan004 this is what I get from that video.

      2 Taylor/Coltman
      5 Barrett
      6 Dixon

      8 Luatua
      9 TKB

      11/14 Ioane
      15 McKenzie

      21 Smith

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        That's a bloody cryptic way of naming the team! They like to keep us guessing don't they...

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          Getting snipets of info, sounds like Dagg has been selected as well.

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          • A akan004

            There's a video in the Herald of Hansen talking about the selections for the Italy game, so the team has obviously been announced. But I can't find it anywhere.

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            @akan004 it goes something like...

            1. W. Crockett
            2. C. Taylor
            3. O. Franks
            4. L. Romano
            5. S. Barrett
            6. E. Dixon
            7. M. Todd
            8. K. Read
            9. T. Cane
            10. T. Lander
            11. T. Blue
            12. A. Lienert-Brown
            13. S. Tamanivalu
            14. I. Dagg
            15. D. McKenzie
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              http://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/796117598572187649

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @akan004 it goes something like...

                1. W. Crockett
                2. C. Taylor
                3. O. Franks
                4. L. Romano
                5. S. Barrett
                6. E. Dixon
                7. M. Todd
                8. K. Read
                9. T. Cane
                10. T. Lander
                11. T. Blue
                12. A. Lienert-Brown
                13. S. Tamanivalu
                14. I. Dagg
                15. D. McKenzie
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                @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                  It's 2.55am in Italy. The team can be named any minute now!

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                    @mariner4life said in v Italy:

                    @ACT-Crusader is that joke the new Thursday?

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                      #43

                      All Blacks team named:

                      1.Wyatt Crockett (55)
                      2.Codie Taylor (12)
                      3.Charlie Faumuina (43)
                      4.Patrick Tuipulotu (11)
                      5.Scott Barrett (1)
                      6.Elliot Dixon (2)
                      7.Sam Cane - captain (38)
                      8.Steven Luatua (14)
                      9.Tawera Kerr-Barlow (24)
                      10.Aaron Cruden (44)
                      11.Waisake Naholo (9)
                      12.Anton Lienert-Brown (6)
                      13.Malakai Fekitoa (21)
                      14.Israel Dagg (58)
                      15.Damian McKenzie (1)

                      16.Liam Coltman *
                      17.Joe Moody (21)
                      18.Ofa Tu'ungafasi (3)
                      19.Brodie Retallick (57)
                      20.Matt Todd (6)
                      21.Aaron Smith (55)
                      22.Lima Sopoaga (5)
                      23.Rieko Ioane *

                      *new caps

                      http://www.allblacks.com/News/30100/all-blacks-team-named-for-test-against-italy

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                        haha shit team. we're fucked. 0-2 on the tour to start.

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                          wow!

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                            So from the travelling squad being rested are: Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Jerome Kaino, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Kieran Read, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith

                            Unavailable: Luke Romano

                            Injured: Sam Whitelock, Ryan Crotty, George Moala

                            I wouldn't be surprised if Ioane comes on for McKenzie, with Dagg going to fullback, just to keep some experience in the backline (unless they move Cruden when Sops comes on, instead of subbing him off). Otherwise A Smith would be the only experienced player in the entire backline in the second half. I can't remember Ioane ever playing on the left wing?

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                              Geez, Italy may be the weakest of the 6 Nations, but they're playing no 13 in the world rankings, not 31. Are they underestimating the Italians?

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                                I think there will be some nervous moments on Sunday morning. Don't mind the front row, but the 4-8 has me just a little concerned.

                                9-10 a good combo but I can't say either are in any great form. New midfield combo and a back three that have never been on the park together.

                                Don't mind the bench so much and will look forward to seeing Ioane get a run at some stage (hopefully on the wing).

                                There will be a bit of pressure on the likes of Cane, Cruden and Dagg to step up and show leadership.

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                                  So from the travelling squad being rested are: Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Jerome Kaino, Ardie Savea, Liam Squire, Kieran Read, TJ Perenara, Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith

                                  Unavailable: Luke Romano

                                  Injured: Sam Whitelock, Ryan Crotty, George Moala

                                  I wouldn't be surprised if Ioane comes on for McKenzie, with Dagg going to fullback, just to keep some experience in the backline (unless they move Cruden when Sops comes on, instead of subbing him off). Otherwise A Smith would be the only experienced player in the entire backline in the second half. I can't remember Ioane ever playing on the left wing?

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                                  @Stargazer Are Fifita, Tamanivalu, Jordie Barrett not travelling?

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                                    Our success so far this year has been built on 2,4,5,8,9,10,13 and 15. None of those guys are playing, except ALB, and he's in a different spot. Each game has been similar, we stretch and stretch until one of those blokes blows the game open. Who is doing that this week?

                                    That's NZ A, not the All Blacks. In a full strength side, 2 of those would start (and Dagg might not if we had everyone fit). This is a huge gamble.

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                                      @Stargazer Are Fifita, Tamanivalu, Jordie Barrett not travelling?

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                                      @ACT-Crusader Correct. They have just not been picked, so didn't fit in "injured", "unavailable" or "being rested". Where Squire and A Savea fit is not clear. Not sure whether they needed the rest.

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                                        That team says to me , they are throwing everything at Ireland the following week ,

                                        And anyone that can benefit from a spell is getting one ,

                                        Lets just hope they arent taking their Eye off the Italians too much .

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                                          Our success so far this year has been built on 2,4,5,8,9,10,13 and 15. None of those guys are playing, except ALB, and he's in a different spot. Each game has been similar, we stretch and stretch until one of those blokes blows the game open. Who is doing that this week?

                                          That's NZ A, not the All Blacks. In a full strength side, 2 of those would start (and Dagg might not if we had everyone fit). This is a huge gamble.

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                                          @mariner4life On the other hand - no Moody to get carded, a starting halfback who can defend, a balanced back 3, two proper locks etc.

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