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All Blacks v Ireland II

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    kidcalder
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    I think SA losing to Italy shows that while we are good the results in the RC were deceiving and that the southern hem sides are not superior at the moment - Ireland OZ will tell a story

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      Okay, spoilers in this thread. I'm signing off.

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      • K kidcalder

        I think SA losing to Italy shows that while we are good the results in the RC were deceiving and that the southern hem sides are not superior at the moment - Ireland OZ will tell a story

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        @kidcalder said in Ireland II:

        I think SA losing to Italy shows that while we are good the results in the RC were deceiving and that the southern hem sides are not superior at the moment - Ireland OZ will tell a story

        I doubt Ireland will turn up with the same intensity against the wobs. They clearly targeted the Abs, and their injuries won't help them either. I am picking a win to the wobs next week.

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        • J JustAnotherFan

          @booboo said in Ireland II:

          @Tordah said in Ireland II:

          @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

          @Tordah what happened?

          After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

          It wasn't even flat.

          But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

          I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

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          @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

          @booboo said in Ireland II:

          @Tordah said in Ireland II:

          @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

          @Tordah what happened?

          After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

          It wasn't even flat.

          But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

          I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

          Yeah ok. On my broadsheet old school hardcopy $2 newspaper that I'm reading it says backwards. 7 points.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @African-Monkey bro come on. Fekitoa's tackle was poor play by him. It had nothing to do with the kick from Smith. He made the choice to go high and got rightly penalised for it.

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            @ACT-Crusader I'm not defending his tackle it was definitely poor and reckless, but Smith's poor box kick after we had just weathered a storm on defence put us in a position under pressure yet again which could easily have been avoided.

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              @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

              @nzzp said in Ireland II:

              @rotated said in Ireland II:

              All the window dressing aside Ireland have came to play today - they still don't have much on attack unless they catch you on a bad day - but absolutely full credit for actually fronting and giving a good tight test.

              Schmidt has Ireland playing the type of rugby Gatland has spent 10 years trying to get Wales to play.

              Yeah, 9 points is poor considering they had 20 minutes against 14, at home, with a crowd influencing a ref

              It isn't the ref making high tackles taking the head offs the opponents or doing the Aaron Smith offside play at the breakdown. Just curious why you say Peyper is a home town ref. Between him and TMO he gave AB's 14 points for free. He didn't have balls to go to TMO on a forward pass. We all know the try wasn't grounded by Beaudy. Refs must realize that with cams from all angles things get picked up. 2 errors from TMO / Peyper cost Ireland the game. Wait for the press. πŸ™‚

              You Irish amuse me.

              Ireland essentially clueless on attack outside of their backrow. Did they have any backs? They could hold the ball but with that amount of possession they should have racked up more points.

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              DMX
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              @booboo

              Agree , it was the ability of the Irish to hold on to the ball in Chicago that made the difference, here they held on to the ball but still lost 3 tries to zero.

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              • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                @ACT-Crusader I'm not defending his tackle it was definitely poor and reckless, but Smith's poor box kick after we had just weathered a storm on defence put us in a position under pressure yet again which could easily have been avoided.

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                @African-Monkey

                I was screaming to get Smith off after that high tackle.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                  @booboo said in Ireland II:

                  @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                  @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                  @Tordah what happened?

                  After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                  It wasn't even flat.

                  But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                  I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                  Yeah ok. On my broadsheet old school hardcopy $2 newspaper that I'm reading it says backwards. 7 points.

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                  @booboo said in Ireland II:

                  @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                  @booboo said in Ireland II:

                  @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                  @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                  @Tordah what happened?

                  After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                  It wasn't even flat.

                  But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                  I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                  Yeah ok. On my broadsheet old school hardcopy $2 newspaper that I'm reading it says backwards. 7 points.

                  Don't feed the troll.

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                    Snowy
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                    I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                    Wow. I have seen some dumb shit on here over the years but that is right up there. I have a TV screen that is more than capable of showing a players hands being directed away from the try line.

                    Funny how these idiots show up after the odd win against the AB. The Saffas always do it then disappear - some notable exceptions of course.

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                    • K kidcalder

                      I think SA losing to Italy shows that while we are good the results in the RC were deceiving and that the southern hem sides are not superior at the moment - Ireland OZ will tell a story

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                      JustAnotherFan
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                      #532

                      @kidcalder said in Ireland II:

                      I think SA losing to Italy shows that while we are good the results in the RC were deceiving and that the southern hem sides are not superior at the moment - Ireland OZ will tell a story

                      A few months ago (June Internationals), Boks beat Ireland 2-1 in a home series (with Ireland winning first game in SA). A lot has changed since June with Bok team basically going down hill (hardly won a game since, except 1 against Argentinia). Back then I noticed Irish having a good season. Based on Chicago and today, I think they will give Aus a good go (as long as there aren't injuries).

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                      • J JustAnotherFan

                        @booboo said in Ireland II:

                        @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                        @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                        @Tordah what happened?

                        After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                        It wasn't even flat.

                        But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                        I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

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                        Rancid Schnitzel
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                        @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                        @booboo said in Ireland II:

                        @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                        @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                        @Tordah what happened?

                        After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                        It wasn't even flat.

                        But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                        I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                        That would be the one that "fell off the back of a truck"?

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                          munstergreen
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                          Just logged on to say fair play and cheers for a cracking series lads.

                          Proper, hard as nails rugby from two teams who wanted to play ball. Was delighted to get that monkey off our backs a fortnight ago and proud of the effort today, especially from our pack even if we lacked that little bit of attacking guile that sees your lads through when your backs are against the wall.

                          As losing Crotty last week affected your attack, there's no shame in losing our attacking shape after losing Sexton and Henshaw so early. That and your fellas superb defence was the difference in the game for me.

                          That and Brodie Retallick. What a beast of a player and the best player in the world by a distance in my book. I thought we had the edge in a lot of areas of the pack but that fecker evened the scales all on his own!

                          Agreed with Hansen's comments on there being no malice in any of the tough play tonight. The ref was a bit all over the place but I didn't think either side came off worse and we've only ourselves to blame for not exploiting the rubs of the green we did get. The decisions not to scrum penalties close to the line when we had a man advantage were shockers.

                          Anyway, enough rambling. Just wanted to say congrats and cheers for a fantastic 2 rugby!

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                          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                            @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                            @booboo said in Ireland II:

                            @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                            @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                            @Tordah what happened?

                            After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                            It wasn't even flat.

                            But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                            I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                            That would be the one that "fell off the back of a truck"?

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                            JustAnotherFan
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                            #535

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Ireland II:

                            @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                            @booboo said in Ireland II:

                            @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                            @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                            @Tordah what happened?

                            After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                            It wasn't even flat.

                            But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                            I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                            That would be the one that "fell off the back of a truck"?

                            I won it in a bet when the Proteas lost to the Black Caps. πŸ™‚

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                              ACT Crusader
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                              I think trying to compare two test results that are weeks apart has been fraught since the dawn of time.

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                              • M munstergreen

                                Just logged on to say fair play and cheers for a cracking series lads.

                                Proper, hard as nails rugby from two teams who wanted to play ball. Was delighted to get that monkey off our backs a fortnight ago and proud of the effort today, especially from our pack even if we lacked that little bit of attacking guile that sees your lads through when your backs are against the wall.

                                As losing Crotty last week affected your attack, there's no shame in losing our attacking shape after losing Sexton and Henshaw so early. That and your fellas superb defence was the difference in the game for me.

                                That and Brodie Retallick. What a beast of a player and the best player in the world by a distance in my book. I thought we had the edge in a lot of areas of the pack but that fecker evened the scales all on his own!

                                Agreed with Hansen's comments on there being no malice in any of the tough play tonight. The ref was a bit all over the place but I didn't think either side came off worse and we've only ourselves to blame for not exploiting the rubs of the green we did get. The decisions not to scrum penalties close to the line when we had a man advantage were shockers.

                                Anyway, enough rambling. Just wanted to say congrats and cheers for a fantastic 2 rugby!

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                                @munstergreen welcome aboard. Stick around, good times ahead for Irish footy.

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                                  SimonAdd_2
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                                  #538

                                  Just saw this slow-mo of the Cane high tackle on YouTube. At the time in the match I thought it was more of a head-clash and a penalty only was a fair call, but the second angle here looks really ugly.

                                  I expect a citing for both Cane and Fekitoa.

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                                  • J JustAnotherFan

                                    @booboo said in Ireland II:

                                    @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                                    @Tordah what happened?

                                    After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                                    It wasn't even flat.

                                    But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                                    I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

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                                    LagerLout
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                                    @JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:

                                    @booboo said in Ireland II:

                                    @Tordah said in Ireland II:

                                    @taniwharugby said in Ireland II:

                                    @Tordah what happened?

                                    After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check

                                    It wasn't even flat.

                                    But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.

                                    I guess on your tiny TV screens in NZ you can't tell the difference. On my 65" it was forward. πŸ™‚

                                    That's a big screen to fit in a caravan, kudos! πŸ˜‰

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                                      No Quarter
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                                      @SimonAdd_2 colour me shocked a tackle looks slightly worse on a super slow motion high def replay.

                                      Shoulder to shoulder, arms involved, no sighting required. In fact that just confirms to me that it wasn't even a penalty.

                                      It's not tiddly winks.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        @SimonAdd_2 colour me shocked a tackle looks slightly worse on a super slow motion high def replay.

                                        Shoulder to shoulder, arms involved, no sighting required. In fact that just confirms to me that it wasn't even a penalty.

                                        It's not tiddly winks.

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                                        SimonAdd_2
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                                        @No-Quarter

                                        Shoulder to shoulder? Get out of here, that's shoulder to face and you know it.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          @LagerLout said in Ireland II:

                                          Bit surprised not to see Dagg involved in the kicking in this game, his punt would have been useful at times especially clearing from our 22.

                                          Does anyone know the possession stats?

                                          Ireland had 66% possession (source: Opta)

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                                          @Stargazer said in Ireland II:

                                          @LagerLout said in Ireland II:

                                          Bit surprised not to see Dagg involved in the kicking in this game, his punt would have been useful at times especially clearing from our 22.

                                          Does anyone know the possession stats?

                                          Ireland had 66% possession (source: Opta)

                                          Wow.. we won, pretty convincingly with 34% possession? Looks like we have a LOT to work on, but also goes to show how good Ireland are.

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