2017 New Zealand U20s
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@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
@Chris-B. said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
Don't confuse those from Auckland/Wellington, who have grown up on a diet of statehouse rugby, with the rest of the North Island. The lads from the heartlands aren't the ones watching as their team mates go into contact while they stand in the backline waiting for the next hitup.
Still, only three from the sheep shagging regions is not a good sign....
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I've seen Harrison Allan play club rugby.
Looks to be a real talent, hope his scrummaging is good enough. He's definately got the physique for it (unlike the fat 130kg + Auckland props we've had in recent memory, who tend to stand in the backline waiting for a chance to run the ball)
@SammyC said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
I've seen Harrison Allan play club rugby.
Looks to be a real talent, hope his scrummaging is good enough. He's definately got the physique for it (unlike the fat 130kg + Auckland props we've had in recent memory, who tend to stand in the backline waiting for a chance to run the ball)
Those fat props are from Waikato and Wellington...
Not too many Auckland props have made the U20s in recent times.
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@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
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@Bovidae Doubtless won by a bunch of flash harry backs making those fat useless backline-lurking forwards look good.
But, when our scrum is reversing at a rate of knots in the pissing rain, we'll realise that we might as well just have picked whomever is propping at Tapawera High School or maybe Murchison...
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@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
@Chris-B. said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
Like err Coles or Retallick ..
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@Chris-B. said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
@Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
What the NZ U20s will need are good props to have a competitive front row. Some decent size at lock wouldn't hurt either.
I have no problems with the talent available at loose forward and in the backline but if the tight five are struggling to impose themselves, and the weather is shite, then we've seen what happens.
What are all those fucking North Island forwards doing in there? Based on recent All Black history, the tight forwards should come almost exclusively from Ta$man or Canterbury, with a token North Islander or two thrown in - probably only if they've already signed up for the Crusaders Academy.
Oh well, they'll get a nice certificate for participating to hang on their walls, which will doubtless encourage them to carry on.
Like err Coles or Retallick ..
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@cheetahsBO I made a new thread for 2017 school rugby here: http://www.thesilverfern.com/topic/1412/2017-school-rugby
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The New Zealand Under 20 squad to travel to the Gold Coast, Australia next month for the Oceania Under 20 tournament, has been named.
The squad is:
Forwards
Harrison Allan - Canterbury
Asafo Aumua - Wellington
Sam Caird - Waikato
Adrian Choat - Auckland
Tom Christie - Canterbury
Ryan Coxon - Waikato
Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
Alex Fidow - Wellington
Luke Jacobson (C) - Waikato
Ezekiel Lindenmuth - Auckland
Marino Mikaele -Tuu - Hawkes Bay
Dalton Papalii - Auckland
Jacob Pierce - Auckland
John (JP) Sauni - Auckland
Samuel Slade - Auckland
Pouri Rakete-Stones - Hawkes Bay
Isaia Walker-Leawere - WellingtonBacks
Jordie Barrett (VC) - Taranaki
Caleb Clarke - Auckland
Ereatara Enari - Canterbury
Braydon Ennor - Canterbury
Tima Faingaanuku - Ta$man
Tiaan Falcon - Hawkes Bay
Will Jordan - Canterbury
Kemara Hauiti-Parapara - Wellington
Orbyn Leger - Counties
Josh McKay - Canterbury
Jona Nareki - Otago
Carlos Price - Wellington
Tamati Tua - NorthlandNote: Two further players will be named prior to the tournament
Players not considered due to injury:
Stephen Perofeta AucklandRound 1, Friday 28 April New Zealand v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Australia v Samoa, 7.00pm AEST Round 2, Tuesday 2 May New Zealand v Samoa, 3.00pm AEST Australia v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Round 3, Saturday 6 May Samoa v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Australia v New Zealand, 7.00pm AEST All matches will be played at Bond University, Gold Coast Rugby Fields.http://www.allblacks.com/News/30549/new-zealand-under-20-squad-named-for-oceania-tournament
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The New Zealand Under 20 squad to travel to the Gold Coast, Australia next month for the Oceania Under 20 tournament, has been named.
The squad is:
Forwards
Harrison Allan - Canterbury
Asafo Aumua - Wellington
Sam Caird - Waikato
Adrian Choat - Auckland
Tom Christie - Canterbury
Ryan Coxon - Waikato
Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
Alex Fidow - Wellington
Luke Jacobson (C) - Waikato
Ezekiel Lindenmuth - Auckland
Marino Mikaele -Tuu - Hawkes Bay
Dalton Papalii - Auckland
Jacob Pierce - Auckland
John (JP) Sauni - Auckland
Samuel Slade - Auckland
Pouri Rakete-Stones - Hawkes Bay
Isaia Walker-Leawere - WellingtonBacks
Jordie Barrett (VC) - Taranaki
Caleb Clarke - Auckland
Ereatara Enari - Canterbury
Braydon Ennor - Canterbury
Tima Faingaanuku - Ta$man
Tiaan Falcon - Hawkes Bay
Will Jordan - Canterbury
Kemara Hauiti-Parapara - Wellington
Orbyn Leger - Counties
Josh McKay - Canterbury
Jona Nareki - Otago
Carlos Price - Wellington
Tamati Tua - NorthlandNote: Two further players will be named prior to the tournament
Players not considered due to injury:
Stephen Perofeta AucklandRound 1, Friday 28 April New Zealand v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Australia v Samoa, 7.00pm AEST Round 2, Tuesday 2 May New Zealand v Samoa, 3.00pm AEST Australia v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Round 3, Saturday 6 May Samoa v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST Australia v New Zealand, 7.00pm AEST All matches will be played at Bond University, Gold Coast Rugby Fields.http://www.allblacks.com/News/30549/new-zealand-under-20-squad-named-for-oceania-tournament
@Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:
Stephen Perofeta Auckland
I thought he was with Taranaki this year?
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Sweet, Tamati Tua made it!
Been a massive couple of years for him from playing U18s in Kaitaia in 2015 to making the NZ squad.
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So where have players been dropped/added?
NZ U20s squad by province:
Auckland (7 of the initial 13): Adrian Choat, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Dalton Papalii, Jacob Pierce, John (JP) Sauni, Samuel Slade, Caleb Clarke / injured: Stephen Perofeta (formerly Taranaki)
Canterbury (6 of 6): Harrison Allan, Tom Christie, Ereatara Enari, Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan, Josh McKay
Counties Manukau (1 of 2): Orbyn Leger
Hawke's Bay (from 3 to 4): Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Marino Mikaele-Tuu, Tiaan Falcon
Manawatu (0 of 2): -
North Harbour (0 of 3): -
Northland (1 of 1): Tamati Tua
Otago (1 of 2): Jonah Nareki
Taranaki (1 of 2): Jordie Barrett (vc)
Ta$man (1 of 1): Tima Faingaanuku
Waikato (3 from 9): Sam Caird, Ryan Coxon, Luke Jacobson (c)
Wellington (5 of 11): Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Carlos Price
BOP (0): -
Southland (0): -The coach has done his job and sneaked in another player from Hawke's Bay (Farrell). @Nepia will be happy
As @Tim already noticed, Perofeta is now allocated to Auckland????
On Twitter, Will Jordan is named as a Ta$man Mako, not a Cantab. -
Does anyone else get annoyed by the media immediately headlining that Jordie Barrett is in the squad. As if he's the only one with talent in that squad worth mentioning? I'm sure there are more players in this team who will eventually make the ABs; the media just can't be bothered to watch them play to notice their potential.
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So where have players been dropped/added?
NZ U20s squad by province:
Auckland (7 of the initial 13): Adrian Choat, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Dalton Papalii, Jacob Pierce, John (JP) Sauni, Samuel Slade, Caleb Clarke / injured: Stephen Perofeta (formerly Taranaki)
Canterbury (6 of 6): Harrison Allan, Tom Christie, Ereatara Enari, Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan, Josh McKay
Counties Manukau (1 of 2): Orbyn Leger
Hawke's Bay (from 3 to 4): Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Marino Mikaele-Tuu, Tiaan Falcon
Manawatu (0 of 2): -
North Harbour (0 of 3): -
Northland (1 of 1): Tamati Tua
Otago (1 of 2): Jonah Nareki
Taranaki (1 of 2): Jordie Barrett (vc)
Ta$man (1 of 1): Tima Faingaanuku
Waikato (3 from 9): Sam Caird, Ryan Coxon, Luke Jacobson (c)
Wellington (5 of 11): Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Carlos Price
BOP (0): -
Southland (0): -The coach has done his job and sneaked in another player from Hawke's Bay (Farrell). @Nepia will be happy
As @Tim already noticed, Perofeta is now allocated to Auckland????
On Twitter, Will Jordan is named as a Ta$man Mako, not a Cantab.@Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?
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@Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?
@Tim when they show the BLues dev sides they list some players as Blues, some as thier province.
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@Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?
@Tim Maybe? Although I noticed that - now that the Canes U20s and Dev team have played their final games - a full squad member like Jonah Lowe has returned to the Bay to play for his club Clive and not for the Wellington club he had been assigned to. Of course, there's usually more depth at wing/midfield than at first-five, so that could be a reason why the Blues want to keep Perofeta in Auckland.
