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2017 New Zealand U20s

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    The New Zealand Under 20 squad to travel to the Gold Coast, Australia next month for the Oceania Under 20 tournament, has been named.

    The squad is:

    Forwards

    Harrison Allan - Canterbury
    Asafo Aumua - Wellington
    Sam Caird - Waikato
    Adrian Choat - Auckland
    Tom Christie - Canterbury
    Ryan Coxon - Waikato
    Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
    Alex Fidow - Wellington
    Luke Jacobson (C) - Waikato
    Ezekiel Lindenmuth - Auckland
    Marino Mikaele -Tuu - Hawkes Bay
    Dalton Papalii - Auckland
    Jacob Pierce - Auckland
    John (JP) Sauni - Auckland
    Samuel Slade - Auckland
    Pouri Rakete-Stones - Hawkes Bay
    Isaia Walker-Leawere - Wellington

    Backs

    Jordie Barrett (VC) - Taranaki
    Caleb Clarke - Auckland
    Ereatara Enari - Canterbury
    Braydon Ennor - Canterbury
    Tima Faingaanuku - Ta$man
    Tiaan Falcon - Hawkes Bay
    Will Jordan - Canterbury
    Kemara Hauiti-Parapara - Wellington
    Orbyn Leger - Counties
    Josh McKay - Canterbury
    Jona Nareki - Otago
    Carlos Price - Wellington
    Tamati Tua - Northland

    Note: Two further players will be named prior to the tournament

    Players not considered due to injury:
    Stephen Perofeta Auckland

    Round 1, Friday 28 April
    New Zealand v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST
    Australia v Samoa, 7.00pm AEST 
    
    Round 2, Tuesday 2 May 
    New Zealand v Samoa, 3.00pm AEST 
    Australia v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST 
    
    Round 3, Saturday 6 May
    Samoa v Fiji, 5.00pm AEST
    Australia v New Zealand, 7.00pm AEST 
    
    All matches will be played at Bond University, Gold Coast Rugby Fields. 
    

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/30549/new-zealand-under-20-squad-named-for-oceania-tournament

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    @Stargazer said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

    Stephen Perofeta Auckland

    I thought he was with Taranaki this year?

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      Please stop giving Auckland fans false hope

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        Sweet, Tamati Tua made it!

        Been a massive couple of years for him from playing U18s in Kaitaia in 2015 to making the NZ squad.

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          So where have players been dropped/added?

          NZ U20s squad by province:

          Auckland (7 of the initial 13): Adrian Choat, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Dalton Papalii, Jacob Pierce, John (JP) Sauni, Samuel Slade, Caleb Clarke / injured: Stephen Perofeta (formerly Taranaki)
          Canterbury (6 of 6): Harrison Allan, Tom Christie, Ereatara Enari, Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan, Josh McKay
          Counties Manukau (1 of 2): Orbyn Leger
          Hawke's Bay (from 3 to 4): Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Marino Mikaele-Tuu, Tiaan Falcon
          Manawatu (0 of 2): -
          North Harbour (0 of 3): -
          Northland (1 of 1): Tamati Tua
          Otago (1 of 2): Jonah Nareki
          Taranaki (1 of 2): Jordie Barrett (vc)
          Ta$man (1 of 1): Tima Faingaanuku
          Waikato (3 from 9): Sam Caird, Ryan Coxon, Luke Jacobson (c)
          Wellington (5 of 11): Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Carlos Price
          BOP (0): -
          Southland (0): -

          The coach has done his job and sneaked in another player from Hawke's Bay (Farrell). @Nepia will be happy 😀
          As @Tim already noticed, Perofeta is now allocated to Auckland????
          On Twitter, Will Jordan is named as a Ta$man Mako, not a Cantab.

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            Wait so Perofeta missed the Brisbane 10s due to injury, made his comeback the saturday before last, then played last Wednesday, and is apparently now re-injured for at least another month?

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              Does anyone else get annoyed by the media immediately headlining that Jordie Barrett is in the squad. As if he's the only one with talent in that squad worth mentioning? I'm sure there are more players in this team who will eventually make the ABs; the media just can't be bothered to watch them play to notice their potential.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                So where have players been dropped/added?

                NZ U20s squad by province:

                Auckland (7 of the initial 13): Adrian Choat, Ezekiel Lindenmuth, Dalton Papalii, Jacob Pierce, John (JP) Sauni, Samuel Slade, Caleb Clarke / injured: Stephen Perofeta (formerly Taranaki)
                Canterbury (6 of 6): Harrison Allan, Tom Christie, Ereatara Enari, Braydon Ennor, Will Jordan, Josh McKay
                Counties Manukau (1 of 2): Orbyn Leger
                Hawke's Bay (from 3 to 4): Tim Farrell, Pouri Rakete-Stones, Marino Mikaele-Tuu, Tiaan Falcon
                Manawatu (0 of 2): -
                North Harbour (0 of 3): -
                Northland (1 of 1): Tamati Tua
                Otago (1 of 2): Jonah Nareki
                Taranaki (1 of 2): Jordie Barrett (vc)
                Ta$man (1 of 1): Tima Faingaanuku
                Waikato (3 from 9): Sam Caird, Ryan Coxon, Luke Jacobson (c)
                Wellington (5 of 11): Asafo Aumua, Alex Fidow, Isaia Walker-Leawere, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Carlos Price
                BOP (0): -
                Southland (0): -

                The coach has done his job and sneaked in another player from Hawke's Bay (Farrell). @Nepia will be happy 😀
                As @Tim already noticed, Perofeta is now allocated to Auckland????
                On Twitter, Will Jordan is named as a Ta$man Mako, not a Cantab.

                TimT Away
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                @Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?

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                • TimT Tim

                  @Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?

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                  @Tim when they show the BLues dev sides they list some players as Blues, some as thier province.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @Stargazer Maybe he's just playing club rugby in Auckland while he's with the Blues?

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                    @Tim Maybe? Although I noticed that - now that the Canes U20s and Dev team have played their final games - a full squad member like Jonah Lowe has returned to the Bay to play for his club Clive and not for the Wellington club he had been assigned to. Of course, there's usually more depth at wing/midfield than at first-five, so that could be a reason why the Blues want to keep Perofeta in Auckland.

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                      Fidow named so scrummaging still not a priority. No Shneil Singh - our first Indian AB.

                      As Philpott is the coach winning will be a surprise. 😆

                      IIRC there were a few changes in the squad from the Oceania tourny to the WC last year.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        Fidow named so scrummaging still not a priority. No Shneil Singh - our first Indian AB.

                        As Philpott is the coach winning will be a surprise. 😆

                        IIRC there were a few changes in the squad from the Oceania tourny to the WC last year.

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                        Whites72
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                        @Bovidae who are the players to look out for apart from the usual players like jordie Barrett .
                        Carlos price I've been told is really talented but no idea on any others

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                          A further two players will be added prior to the tournament, with selectors hopeful that Blues first-five Stephen Perofeta will be recovered from injury in time to join the squad.

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                          • W Whites72

                            @Bovidae who are the players to look out for apart from the usual players like jordie Barrett .
                            Carlos price I've been told is really talented but no idea on any others

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                            @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                            I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                            Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                            There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                              I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                              Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                              There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

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                              @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                              @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                              I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                              Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                              There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

                              That's a novel concept 🙂

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                                The weather in Georgia is expected to be hot and sunny. The right 5 might not be as important as last year in Manchester.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                                  I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                                  Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                                  There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

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                                  @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                  @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                                  I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                                  Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                                  There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

                                  Don't think McKay was in last year's team. 10s were Va'a and Perofeta.

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                                  • RapidoR Rapido

                                    @Bovidae said in 2017 New Zealand U20s:

                                    @Whites72 Price was poached by St Kents from BOP and is now in Wellington.

                                    I'm not too familiar with many of the players from other provinces. Of the Waikato players, I rate Jacobson. He played for the Chiefs in the Brisbane 10s and can play 6/8. Caird is a lock who played a few preseason games for Waikato last year.

                                    Of the forwards, Jacobson, Papali'i, Fidow, Aumua, Mikaele -Tuu and Walker-Leawere were all in last year's team. Papali'i is an excellent prospect. In the backs, Barrett, Enari, Leger and McKay return.

                                    There are quite a few sons of ABs/provincial players in this squad (e.g. Clarke, Leger, Pierce, Falcon). It's hard to know how they compare to the 2016 U20s until we see them play. As I said earlier, the tight five will be the key to succeeding.

                                    Don't think McKay was in last year's team. 10s were Va'a and Perofeta.

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                                    @Rapido I was using this list.

                                    http://www.allblacks.com/Teams/U20

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @Rapido I was using this list.

                                      http://www.allblacks.com/Teams/U20

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                                      @Bovidae @Rapido McKay was a late addition to the NZ U20s squad for the 2016 Oceania Tournament as injury replacement for Caleb Makene and wasn't in the JWC squad.

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                                        Final NZU20s squad for the Oceania U20s:

                                        Forwards:
                                        Harrison Allan - Canterbury
                                        Asafo Aumua - Wellington
                                        Sam Caird - Waikato
                                        Adrian Choat - Auckland
                                        Tom Christie - Canterbury
                                        Ryan Coxon - Waikato
                                        Tim Farrell - Hawkes Bay
                                        Alex Fidow - Wellington
                                        Luke Jacobson (C) - Waikato
                                        Ezekiel Lindenmuth - Auckland
                                        Marino Mikaele-Tuu - Hawkes Bay
                                        Dalton Papalii - Auckland
                                        Jacob Pierce - Auckland
                                        John (JP) Sauni - Auckland
                                        Samuel Slade - Auckland
                                        Pouri Rakete-Stones - Hawkes Bay
                                        Isaia Walker-Leawere - Wellington

                                        Backs:
                                        Caleb Clarke - Auckland
                                        Ereatara Enari (VC) - Canterbury
                                        Braydon Ennor - Canterbury
                                        Tima Faingaanuku - Ta$man
                                        Tiaan Falcon - Hawkes Bay
                                        Will Jordan - Ta$man
                                        Kemara Hauiti-Parapara - Wellington
                                        Orbyn Leger - Counties
                                        Ciarahn Matoe - Taranaki
                                        Josh McKay - Canterbury
                                        Jona Nareki - Otago
                                        Carlos Price - Wellington
                                        Tamati Tua - Northland
                                        Thomas Umaga-Jensen - Wellington

                                        Not considered due to Investec Super Rugby commitments:
                                        Jordie Barrett - Taranaki

                                        Players not considered due to injury:
                                        Stephen Perofeta - Taranaki
                                        Peter Umaga Jensen - Wellington

                                        Ciarahn Matoe (Taranaki) included due to the unavailability of Jordie Barrett and Stephen Perofeta. Thomas Umaga-Jensen returns from injury, but not his twin brother.

                                        http://www.allblacks.com/News/30648/final-squad-for-oceania-u20-tournament-named

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                                          Alex Fidow out, replaced by Robb Cobb.

                                          Perofeta returning for the Blues via club rugby.

                                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=11844092

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