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Parker v ??

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  • JKJ Offline
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    Would love to see an in-shape Ortiz turn up vs Wilder but cant see it happening without drugs. Age is no longer on his side either

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      Wilder has had 39 fights and his best opponent is probably Johann Duhaupas which really says it all about him in terms of ambition.

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        As I was saying. 🙂

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/99761726/anthony-joshua-finally-ready-to-overpay-joseph-parker-to-seal-unification-fight-deal

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          https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/870611/Anthony-Joshua-Mike-Tyson-Larry-Holmes/amp

          I'm not quite sure what to make of this ( some of the proofreading in the article is Stuff.co.nz level as well )

          When Ali died Holmes was quoted as saying there was no one today who held a candle to the 70s/80s era.

          @raznomore thoughts on this? Personally I doubt Joshua could do it.

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            https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/870611/Anthony-Joshua-Mike-Tyson-Larry-Holmes/amp

            I'm not quite sure what to make of this ( some of the proofreading in the article is Stuff.co.nz level as well )

            When Ali died Holmes was quoted as saying there was no one today who held a candle to the 70s/80s era.

            @raznomore thoughts on this? Personally I doubt Joshua could do it.

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            #272

            @mn5 Holmes be smoking some shit!

            Just before he won the belt up until his marriage to Robyn Givens, Tyson would have been the scariest fighter anyone would have faced ever. And I mean ever. His defense was perfect, his head movement was perfect his combinations were perfect. His punching power was border line godlike.

            He would have Ko'd Joshua within 3 at the height of his powers. I think he would have ko'd just about anyone. Including the greatest.

            Joshua is physically probably nothing like anything Tyson ever faced in his career. He is a massive man with speed oh hands but Tyson would destroy him.

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            • raznomoreR raznomore

              @mn5 Holmes be smoking some shit!

              Just before he won the belt up until his marriage to Robyn Givens, Tyson would have been the scariest fighter anyone would have faced ever. And I mean ever. His defense was perfect, his head movement was perfect his combinations were perfect. His punching power was border line godlike.

              He would have Ko'd Joshua within 3 at the height of his powers. I think he would have ko'd just about anyone. Including the greatest.

              Joshua is physically probably nothing like anything Tyson ever faced in his career. He is a massive man with speed oh hands but Tyson would destroy him.

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              #273

              @raznomore said in Parker v ??:

              @mn5 Holmes be smoking some shit!

              Just before he won the belt up until his marriage to Robyn Givens, Tyson would have been the scariest fighter anyone would have faced ever. And I mean ever. His defense was perfect, his head movement was perfect his combinations were perfect. His punching power was border line godlike.

              He would have Ko'd Joshua within 3 at the height of his powers. I think he would have ko'd just about anyone. Including the greatest.

              Joshua is physically probably nothing like anything Tyson ever faced in his career. He is a massive man with speed oh hands but Tyson would destroy him.

              I reckon you're probably right but every fighter had their nemesis. Look at Ken Norton and Ali as an example of that.

              It would've also been interesting to see a prime Larry Holmes vs Tyson. The result woulda been way closer.

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                @raznomore said in Parker v ??:

                @mn5 Holmes be smoking some shit!

                Just before he won the belt up until his marriage to Robyn Givens, Tyson would have been the scariest fighter anyone would have faced ever. And I mean ever. His defense was perfect, his head movement was perfect his combinations were perfect. His punching power was border line godlike.

                He would have Ko'd Joshua within 3 at the height of his powers. I think he would have ko'd just about anyone. Including the greatest.

                Joshua is physically probably nothing like anything Tyson ever faced in his career. He is a massive man with speed oh hands but Tyson would destroy him.

                I reckon you're probably right but every fighter had their nemesis. Look at Ken Norton and Ali as an example of that.

                It would've also been interesting to see a prime Larry Holmes vs Tyson. The result woulda been way closer.

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                #274

                @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                @raznomore said in Parker v ??:

                @mn5 Holmes be smoking some shit!

                Just before he won the belt up until his marriage to Robyn Givens, Tyson would have been the scariest fighter anyone would have faced ever. And I mean ever. His defense was perfect, his head movement was perfect his combinations were perfect. His punching power was border line godlike.

                He would have Ko'd Joshua within 3 at the height of his powers. I think he would have ko'd just about anyone. Including the greatest.

                Joshua is physically probably nothing like anything Tyson ever faced in his career. He is a massive man with speed oh hands but Tyson would destroy him.

                I reckon you're probably right but every fighter had their nemesis. Look at Ken Norton and Ali as an example of that.

                It would've also been interesting to see a prime Larry Holmes vs Tyson. The result woulda been way closer.

                Speaking of nemesis , they say Tyson avoided James Toney ,

                Everything boxing wise points to Tyson winning , but they grew up in the same neighborhood , and Toney was the toughest kid around , no one messed with him growing up , including tyson

                psychological barrier perhaps , but they say Tyson didnt want that fight , was like a pecking order respect thing .

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                  Jeff horn had a tko win last night and sets up a welterweight mega fight with Terence Crawford in what in what is probably the premier weight division right now when it comes to depth and talent .

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                    #276

                    looks like its a done deal with them rumored to have met somewhere in the middle , 32 -33% for parker is the rumor ,

                    Cat was let out of the bag a bit earlier when Lucas brown announced his upcoming fight with Whyte ,

                    Brown is said to have signed his side of a contract to fight parker , and had to wait to see what he was doing first .

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                      #277

                      I wonder if the bigger sticking point was the rematch clause if JP wins. Reports are that AJ gets a rematch but at less than 50%

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                      • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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                        if joshua wins , no rematch for Joseph ,

                        its cya later thanks for the belt ,

                        i guess thats the big concern for the parker camp ,which is why they had to maximize his earnings , if he loses , how far he slides down the pecking order , does this ever come around again ?

                        I guess the nature of the loss may have something to say about that ,

                        A competitive loss should still have him in the mix, a humiliating loss may be a difficult one to recover from

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                        • African MonkeyA Offline
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                          #279

                          Probaby a good time to lose as a HW as the division is quite weak currently so it's definitely possible to make a swift comeback. A few years down the line could be difficult however as there are some decent prospects coming through.

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                            Plus, if your only defeat is to the champ, that still keeps you up the ranks enough that others may want to fight you to elbow you aside for a crack themselves.
                            There does seem to be a lot of inactive fighters in the HW divisions

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                              He should always get fights with fighters there abouts ,

                              But to get back to the top of the tree and fight joshua again if he loses ,

                              I think his performance will have a bit to do with it , ie will the UK fight fans want to see it again ?

                              Win lose or draw , its important for his future to put up a good show IMO with the boxing world watching ,

                              also should he lose, might be a blessing in disguise if the wilder Joshua fight doesnt happen , may give him an another avenue to pursue

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                                  Should be good - venue has always been kind to NZers.

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                                    Awesome!

                                    Not so awesome are the Joshua being King of Steroids comments, while potentially on the money, Joseph is better than this

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11975205

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                                      @JK the kind of steroids vs the king of pies. Go the pies.

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                                        @JK the kind of steroids vs the king of pies. Go the pies.

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                                        @no-quarter said in Parker v ??:

                                        @JK the kind of steroids vs the king of pies. Go the pies.

                                        Apparently Graham Norton was taking the piss out of Parker and saying he doesn't look like a pro athlete? What da fuck?

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                                          @no-quarter said in Parker v ??:

                                          @JK the kind of steroids vs the king of pies. Go the pies.

                                          Apparently Graham Norton was taking the piss out of Parker and saying he doesn't look like a pro athlete? What da fuck?

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                                          @mn5 said in Parker v ??:

                                          @no-quarter said in Parker v ??:

                                          @JK the kind of steroids vs the king of pies. Go the pies.

                                          Apparently Graham Norton was taking the piss out of Parker and saying he doesn't look like a pro athlete? What da fuck?

                                          He reminds me of the Jesse Ryder of boxing. Chubby but doesn't really hinder performance. I can see what Norts was saying

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