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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

    @snowy surely you realise that there is a huge percent of people currently watching that have never been in a sailboat and will forget about the whole thing until the next time around

    Yes, of course.

    Should we change the laws of rugby for those that only watch the RWC because they don't understand the game?

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    Paekakboyz
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    #1106

    @snowy please burn that post with fire before 2021 hears you and we get the next brainless announcement from world rugby!

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    • SnowyS Snowy

      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

      @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

      Do you enjoy dice games?

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      #1107

      @snowy said in Americas Cup:

      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

      @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

      Do you enjoy dice games?

      I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

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      • JCJ JC

        @snowy said in Americas Cup:

        @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

        @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

        Do you enjoy dice games?

        I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

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        JK
        wrote on last edited by JK
        #1108

        @jc said in Americas Cup:

        @snowy said in Americas Cup:

        @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

        @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

        Do you enjoy dice games?

        I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

        Like cricket in the rain then? Would be an interesting watch as long as ya had an umbrella

        Btw, I obviously haven't read all those recent posts above. Had a quick skim and not exactly sure what was/is going on

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        • JKJ JK

          @jc said in Americas Cup:

          @snowy said in Americas Cup:

          @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

          @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

          Do you enjoy dice games?

          I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

          Like cricket in the rain then? Would be an interesting watch as long as ya had an umbrella

          Btw, I obviously haven't read all those recent posts above. Had a quick skim and not exactly sure what was/is going on

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          wrote on last edited by
          #1109

          @jk snowy thinks all rugby should be played in doors

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          • JCJ JC

            @snowy said in Americas Cup:

            @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

            @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

            Do you enjoy dice games?

            I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

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            Kiwiwomble
            wrote on last edited by
            #1110

            @jc said in Americas Cup:

            @snowy said in Americas Cup:

            @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

            @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

            Do you enjoy dice games?

            I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

            or rugby when its blowing a gale? scrap the kicking game for a half and keep the ball in hand whist the other team can pin you into a corner

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @jc said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

              @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

              Do you enjoy dice games?

              I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

              or rugby when its blowing a gale? scrap the kicking game for a half and keep the ball in hand whist the other team can pin you into a corner

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              mariner4life
              wrote on last edited by
              #1111

              @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

              @jc said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy said in Americas Cup:

              @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

              @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

              Do you enjoy dice games?

              I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

              or rugby when its blowing a gale? scrap the kicking game for a half and keep the ball in hand whist the other team can pin you into a corner

              Then the wind dies at half-time and you get double fucked

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                @jc said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

                Do you enjoy dice games?

                I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

                or rugby when its blowing a gale? scrap the kicking game for a half and keep the ball in hand whist the other team can pin you into a corner

                Then the wind dies at half-time and you get double fucked

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                nzzp
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                #1112

                @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                @jc said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

                Do you enjoy dice games?

                I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

                or rugby when its blowing a gale? scrap the kicking game for a half and keep the ball in hand whist the other team can pin you into a corner

                Then the wind dies at half-time and you get double fucked

                or it starts raining while you're 15 down and need to score tries...

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @jk snowy thinks all rugby should be played in doors

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                  Snowy
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1113

                  @mariner4life said in Americas Cup:

                  @jk snowy thinks all rugby should be played in doors

                  No. I don't think every leg of a yacht race should be a reach, and they should actually have to maneuver, and the reasons for the course layouts and weather conditions are sound, and have history for those reasons.

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                    Kiwiwomble
                    wrote on last edited by Kiwiwomble
                    #1114

                    kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

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                    • JCJ JC

                      @snowy said in Americas Cup:

                      @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                      @snowy once again, as a spectator...thats sounds really interesting to watch, interesting weather forcing mistakes and the sailors having to handle different things, going up and down at full speed with one leg indistinguishable from another is the boring stuff people have been talking about

                      Do you enjoy dice games?

                      I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

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                      Snowy
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1115

                      @jc said in Americas Cup:

                      I'm with @Kiwiwomble here. Why is having to take the conditions and course into account any different that say golf? Or F1 for that matter?

                      Because it has a dramatic effect on the event. It is the layout of the course and the wind conditions that create the contest, that is why they cancel, postpone and abandon them if things aren't right.

                      F1 gets called off if the weather doesn't play nicely. Golf for lightning, etc.

                      Sailing just has more marginal parameters. Particularly for these boats.

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                        dogmeat
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                        #1116

                        I'm with @Snowy. It's not like playing a footy game in the rain, or if the wind gets up. At least then the conditions are similar for both teams and you can enjoy seeing who best adapts.

                        It's like playing a game of footy where bear traps randomly open and close swallowing up players. Sure it could interest some people but it would complete render the contest meaningless as a game of rugby and leave it purely to chance who would come out on top. Not how you'd want to decide the RWC - or any game for that matter

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          #1117

                          seeing kick off has been delayed

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

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                            boobooB Do not disturb
                            boobooB Do not disturb
                            booboo
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                            #1118

                            @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                            kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

                            cd4004d8-df0d-4bb9-92ad-a296f8b5782c-image.png

                            Imagine if they lost it from here

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                              kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

                              cd4004d8-df0d-4bb9-92ad-a296f8b5782c-image.png

                              Imagine if they lost it from here

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                              Kiwiwomble
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                              #1119

                              @booboo he probably get a better price for the winning boat 😉

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

                                cd4004d8-df0d-4bb9-92ad-a296f8b5782c-image.png

                                Imagine if they lost it from here

                                canefanC Away
                                canefanC Away
                                canefan
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                                #1120

                                @booboo said in Americas Cup:

                                @kiwiwomble said in Americas Cup:

                                kiwis should know better than to start celebrating too early

                                cd4004d8-df0d-4bb9-92ad-a296f8b5782c-image.png

                                Imagine if they lost it from here

                                I remember listening to some coverage, LR were rumoured to have got Ernesto Bertarelli (Alinghi) lined up as CoR if they win. Apparently he contacted TNZ to see if there were interested in selling their first boat. I'm sure Grant's answer was

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                                  Kiwiwomble
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                                  #1121

                                  anyone else think its kind of sad teams like Alingi and Oracle just forgot about the AC once they lost it? love or hate they both added some edge to it all

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                                    Bovidae
                                    wrote on last edited by Bovidae
                                    #1122

                                    Reports say Bertarelli might be interested in getting back in the game, but that was probably contingent on the event being in Europe.

                                    This will be the end of the TNZ-LR relationship as things off the water have been strained. If the AC is retained I expect INEOS to be the CoR in the future based on comments by Ainslie.

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      anyone else think its kind of sad teams like Alingi and Oracle just forgot about the AC once they lost it? love or hate they both added some edge to it all

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                                      dogmeat
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                                      #1123

                                      @kiwiwomble I'm more disappointed that there haven't been challenges from the likes of Australia, country's with a real AC history, for 20 years rather than a couple of rich pricks who went out and bought the cup and then took their ball home in a funk when they got beat. Particularly Oracle who decided if they couldn't play they'd set up a rival circuit to devalue AC.

                                      Hope Burling and co win that next too!!!

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Reports say Bertarelli might be interested in getting back in the game, but that was probably contingent on the event being in Europe.

                                        This will be the end of the TNZ-LR relationship as things off the water have been strained. If the AC is retained I expect INEOS to be the CoR in the future based on comments by Ainslie.

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                                        wrote on last edited by Kiwiwomble
                                        #1124

                                        @bovidae said in Americas Cup:

                                        Reports say Bertarelli might be interested in getting back in the game, but that was probably contingent on the event being in Europe.

                                        This will be the end of the TNZ-LR relationship as things off the water have been strained. If the AC is retained I expect INEOS to be the CoR in the future based on comments by Ainslie.

                                        yeah, i think that's the worst kept secret in the AC

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-next-challenger-of-record-revealed-as-team-new-zealand-close-in-on-retaining-auld-mug-v-luna-rossa/36JYNNMU6J7345L7SZI2OLNL5I/?fbclid=IwAR1FlCRM-4EQlfz370WO4qpkx8XDAlj3pRa5rg5gKyPb3hOFHe3C8cyDXHw

                                        @dogmeat that fair enough, ive got a good mate over here and Aus who is a sailor, out every weekend racing kind of guy, he was pretty disappointed, theres lots of support

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1125

                                          Looks like a bit of a delay for now but wind building.

                                          Potentially a course move too? Something between A & B?

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