All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2
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Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.
And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.
@Margin_Walker I think you mean Faletau has pushed Kaino through Murray's leg.
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Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.
And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.
@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.
And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.
What Bones said.
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@Margin_Walker I think you mean Faletau has pushed Kaino through Murray's leg.
Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.
https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736
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Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.
https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736
@Margin_Walker Faletau not in the shot? Okaaaay....who's the guy in the red 8 shirt? No wonder the lions are complaining, obviously NZ are sending out randoms to pretend they're lions players and cheat to try and bring down the lions! Disgraceful.
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@Margin_Walker Faletau not in the shot? Okaaaay....who's the guy in the red 8 shirt? No wonder the lions are complaining, obviously NZ are sending out randoms to pretend they're lions players and cheat to try and bring down the lions! Disgraceful.
Not in the shot when the contact between him and Kaino took place.
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Not in the shot when the contact between him and Kaino took place.
@Margin_Walker go look in the match thread there is the wider angle that shows Faletau push into Kaino
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Toddy I don't know.
I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.
I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.
Making contact with the non kicking foot , the planted foot , at the time of kicking is a penalty in the NRL now , deemed dangerous ,
Be interesting to see if they do the same in union
slightly different aims and actions between the two games though. In league you've generally got a guy with a 10m run up going flat out at the kicker, trying to pressure a mistake, and rarely trying to charge the ball (6 again!). Can't say I've seen a heap of injuries from charging kicks in rugby to require a rule tweak
@mariner4life I only remember one occasion, TKBs kicking knee got injured in maybe 2014 in SA becouse someone hit it while trying to charge down the kick. They then ended up with Colin Slade at half back for the last ten or so.
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@Margin_Walker Faletau not in the shot? Okaaaay....who's the guy in the red 8 shirt? No wonder the lions are complaining, obviously NZ are sending out randoms to pretend they're lions players and cheat to try and bring down the lions! Disgraceful.
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@Margin_Walker go look in the match thread there is the wider angle that shows Faletau push into Kaino
Yeah, have seen that. Very little contact for me and Kaino has to do better.
Kaino's even come out today and said he got his timing wrong and it wasn't his intention to target his planted foot. Which is fair enough and case closed for me.
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Yeah, have seen that. Very little contact for me and Kaino has to do better.
Kaino's even come out today and said he got his timing wrong and it wasn't his intention to target his planted foot. Which is fair enough and case closed for me.
@Margin_Walker any contact in that situation will affect Kainos direction.
I bet the case won't be closed tomorrow still.
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@Margin_Walker any contact in that situation will affect Kainos direction.
I bet the case won't be closed tomorrow still.
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
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Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
so why raise it at all? There is absolutely nothing in it. And yet here we are, discussing it, because of a media whinge. And you being so gracious as to "close the case"
"Kaino has to do better"? Are you serious? jesus the pomposity.
I'm actually disappointed the ABs even wheeled JK out to say anything, this is total bullshit.
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@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
so why raise it at all? There is absolutely nothing in it. And yet here we are, discussing it, because of a media whinge. And you being so gracious as to "close the case"
"Kaino has to do better"? Are you serious? jesus the pomposity.
I'm actually disappointed the ABs even wheeled JK out to say anything, this is total bullshit.
It's a forum, sometimes opinions on match incidents differ. I didn't raise it, it was being discussed, but I won't bother in future.
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@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
so why raise it at all? There is absolutely nothing in it. And yet here we are, discussing it, because of a media whinge. And you being so gracious as to "close the case"
"Kaino has to do better"? Are you serious? jesus the pomposity.
I'm actually disappointed the ABs even wheeled JK out to say anything, this is total bullshit.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
so why raise it at all? There is absolutely nothing in it. And yet here we are, discussing it, because of a media whinge. And you being so gracious as to "close the case"
"Kaino has to do better"? Are you serious? jesus the pomposity.
I'm actually disappointed the ABs even wheeled JK out to say anything, this is total bullshit.
He's on the news now , it was the pommy media at the press conference who kept bringing it up over and over again. Looks like it's this years " I could have died".
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jesus. At least Brian's was a legit incident that actually injured a player. JK and the ABs are being persecuted for a hypothetical.
Not only that, but a hypothetical that, had it even somehow eventuated, wouldn't have resulted in even a penalty, let alone any further sanction.
How to suck the life out of the tour. I hope we flog fuck through them the next two weeks.
Gatland doesn't even have a bitchy "yea, but who has the World Cup" to snark as he boards the plane either.
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jesus. At least Brian's was a legit incident that actually injured a player. JK and the ABs are being persecuted for a hypothetical.
Not only that, but a hypothetical that, had it even somehow eventuated, wouldn't have resulted in even a penalty, let alone any further sanction.
How to suck the life out of the tour. I hope we flog fuck through them the next two weeks.
Gatland doesn't even have a bitchy "yea, but who has the World Cup" to snark as he boards the plane either.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
jesus. At least Brian's was a legit incident that actually injured a player. JK and the ABs are being persecuted for a hypothetical.
Not only that, but a hypothetical that, had it even somehow eventuated, wouldn't have resulted in even a penalty, let alone any further sanction.
How to suck the life out of the tour. I hope we flog fuck through them the next two weeks.
Gatland doesn't even have a bitchy "yea, but who has the World Cup" to snark as he boards the plane either.
Totally agree and more fool the British press for buying into this pathetic attempt to distract from the result and how out of his depth the clown is.
What really sad is that he must have rewatched the game desperate for something to whine about and this is the best he could come up with. -
Yep, contact will have an impact on his direction. I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much). Aware I'm obviously swimming against the tide here though and am not really fussed about labouring the point any more.
@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@taniwharugby
I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much).So Kaino should have tried to avoid an offside player pushing him as he is attempting to put pressure on the kicker.
Should he have polished his boots on the way through as well and thanked him kindly for returning to an onside position?
And the call us precious. I will give a fuck what these people think when they point out the high shot on Crotty that wasn't called either. Pains me to say it but Woodward is right here. The Lions didn't lose because Murray got a bit of heat on his box kicks they got beat because after all this time together the still can't score with a 2 man over lap.
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@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
@taniwharugby
I just think Kaino had time to avoid that contact though (and he seems to admit as much).So Kaino should have tried to avoid an offside player pushing him as he is attempting to put pressure on the kicker.
Should he have polished his boots on the way through as well and thanked him kindly for returning to an onside position?
And the call us precious. I will give a fuck what these people think when they point out the high shot on Crotty that wasn't called either. Pains me to say it but Woodward is right here. The Lions didn't lose because Murray got a bit of heat on his box kicks they got beat because after all this time together the still can't score with a 2 man over lap.
Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau
Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park
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Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau
Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park
@Margin_Walker well if Faletau hadn't pushed him he would have avoided Murray leg given the direction of the push was toward Murray
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Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau
Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park
@Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:
Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau
Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park
Avoid how? He hasn't even dived at the leg, he's dived past it. And he's already on his way down as the ball was kicked. It's incidental contact that's not even late.
Touch ref!
