Blues 2018
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I would ring the changes against the Sunwolves and introduce a few new players. I'd like to see a backrow with Sotutu, Ioane and Papaali'i, and maybe Lindenmuth at loosehead. Outside, Tumua Manu looks promising. He could be an upgrade to TJF. Hyland is another possibility though I don't see Duffie being dropped.
@cgrant Agreed on this. Blues will also have to balance ABs potentially being rested - Ofa and Duffie have been rested 1 week out of their 2, the Ioanes none. You'd think this would probably have been a match they would have identified as one to use to rest players.
I agree with you on the players that should be brought in (I'd seriously look at giving Havilii a run too in the loose forwards) but whats the bet Tana brings in players like Kirikiri/Preston/Trainor etc...
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I would ring the changes against the Sunwolves and introduce a few new players. I'd like to see a backrow with Sotutu, Ioane and Papaali'i, and maybe Lindenmuth at loosehead. Outside, Tumua Manu looks promising. He could be an upgrade to TJF. Hyland is another possibility though I don't see Duffie being dropped.
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I would ring the changes against the Sunwolves and introduce a few new players. I'd like to see a backrow with Sotutu, Ioane and Papaali'i, and maybe Lindenmuth at loosehead. Outside, Tumua Manu looks promising. He could be an upgrade to TJF. Hyland is another possibility though I don't see Duffie being dropped.
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From an article on stuff
stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/103041165/super-rugby-five-things-to-look-out-for-this-weekendWhat happens if the Blues beat the Sunwolves in Tokyo? It would insult no-one's intelligence to say the Blues should win this match on Saturday, and by a handsome margin, to extend the Sunwolves' winless run in 2018. But so what if they do? What does it really mean? The reality is the Blues are placed second-last heading into this round, their play-off hopes pirouetting at the end of a frayed rope. There's a danger a bonus-point win at Prince Chichibu Memorial Stadium would divert attention from the real issue, which is whether this team is simply in a holding pattern. If that's the case, it's hardly good enough. Blues chairman Tony Carter and his board members have some decisions to make. Super Rugby teams are like any other business, they like to plan ahead. It's paramount they prove to their players that their organisation is doing the best for them. Which, in turn, puts the heat on Carter and co to decide whether to offer coach Tana Umaga a contract extension, or to go to the market and seek alternatives. And do NZ Rugby have a role to play in trying to blow life some back into the Blues, a club that hasn't made the playoffs since Pat Lam guided them to fourth place in 2011? Any assistance would be appreciated, surely. This story isn't over by a long shot. -
We've covered this before, but it's worth a revisit given the Blues' ongoing shortcomings. Should the Auckland underachievers renew or tear up Tana Umaga's contract which is about to run out?
Hinton: They should definitely not renew, put it that way. My advice would be wait and see. If the Blues continue to lose regularly and show no signs of coming together into something resembling a competitive rugby team, then I don't see how they can bring him back. I love Tana, and he was one of my favourite All Blacks, but it's hard not to see, as a young coach, that this might be beyond even his scope. It would not be terminal for his career either. Remember Joe Schmidt was a young assistant coach at the Blues from 2004-07, and didn't turn out too bad.
Ad FeedbackBidwell: They should never have hired him and, in real professional sport, he'd be gone by now. Because it's rugby, we limp along to the end of the season. And then some, probably. These are the Blues; they're really not a particularly impressive organisation. So having appointed Umaga, and John Kirwan before him, you imagine they will probably extend him. Umaga might turn out to be a fine coach and he didn't hire himself. But it's hard to see how he's the man for this job at this time.
Van Royen: Waiting to see if the franchise can dig themselves out of a mighty hole first is surely the only option. It would be staggering if chief executive Michael Redman put a contract in front of him before then.
Cully: A tricky one. It's not just whether Umaga gets a new contract, it's how it is structured. Perhaps the best option is to give him a two-year extension with some performance clauses in the Blues' favour should it not work out again. There are some big names possibly coming back to NZ in 2020.
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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-team-week-round-8
Akira Ioane (Blues) must be mentioned for his supreme defensive showing against the Chiefs, where he made 19 tackles and won two turnovers for his team.
Should he decide to stay in Japan for another two years and complete the required residency tenure, Michael Little would be a valuable asset to the Japanese national team, as his showings for the Sunwolves this season are beginning to prove. The former Blues midfielder has been a constant attacking weapon for the Sunwolves in 2018, and while they went down 50-29 against the Waratahs over the weekend, Little didn’t go down wondering what could have been. The diminutive second-five carried the ball 15 times to chalk up an incredible 132 metres from a trio of clean breaks. His ability to weave his way through and around defences proved to be hugely profitable for his side, as the 25-year- old scored one try and assisted two others. A solitary turnover won for the Japanese outfit capped off a sensational display for Little.
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We've covered this before, but it's worth a revisit given the Blues' ongoing shortcomings. Should the Auckland underachievers renew or tear up Tana Umaga's contract which is about to run out?
Hinton: They should definitely not renew, put it that way. My advice would be wait and see. If the Blues continue to lose regularly and show no signs of coming together into something resembling a competitive rugby team, then I don't see how they can bring him back. I love Tana, and he was one of my favourite All Blacks, but it's hard not to see, as a young coach, that this might be beyond even his scope. It would not be terminal for his career either. Remember Joe Schmidt was a young assistant coach at the Blues from 2004-07, and didn't turn out too bad.
Ad FeedbackBidwell: They should never have hired him and, in real professional sport, he'd be gone by now. Because it's rugby, we limp along to the end of the season. And then some, probably. These are the Blues; they're really not a particularly impressive organisation. So having appointed Umaga, and John Kirwan before him, you imagine they will probably extend him. Umaga might turn out to be a fine coach and he didn't hire himself. But it's hard to see how he's the man for this job at this time.
Van Royen: Waiting to see if the franchise can dig themselves out of a mighty hole first is surely the only option. It would be staggering if chief executive Michael Redman put a contract in front of him before then.
Cully: A tricky one. It's not just whether Umaga gets a new contract, it's how it is structured. Perhaps the best option is to give him a two-year extension with some performance clauses in the Blues' favour should it not work out again. There are some big names possibly coming back to NZ in 2020.
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@bones I think what he means is the NZ teams are majority owned by a national body, who then dictate certain things (e.g. ABs have to have 2 weeks off during Super Rugby). If it was an NBA team the owner could just fire the coach mid season.
@kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:
@bones I think what he means is ... If it was an NBA team the owner could just fire the coach mid season.
Well, if he does mean that then he is a tool.
The NBA (Euro football, baseball etc) have huge squads (and can trade mid-season to an extent). A coach coming in mid-season can reshape his squad members in a real way.
More importantly, basketball and football have much more interchangeable positions and much more easier changed systems of attack and defence. Teams can, and do, change between 4-3-3 and 4-4-2 for instance. You simply cannot do this mid-season in rugby.
Then there's season length, which is not the 9 months of those sports. By mid-season in Super Rugby, having made the decision to sack your coach, you are only a couple of months from the end of the season anyway. No new coach, even assuming a good one is just hanging around waiting to be picked, is going to take on that sort of poison. So it would have to be an interim promotion of one of the assistants.
American Football is a fully professional sport. Yet it selects coaches for a whole season, for pretty much exactly the same reasons. (Very occasionally owners get stupid and sack a coach mid-season, but they have to wait until the season ends before they can get a decent replacement, so it's largely about peevishness.)
Sacking Tana would leave the team Tana selected and, since the coach taking over would virtually have to come from inside the organisation then most of the game plan would stay the same too.
So you'd gain nothing in terms of results, and you'd gain a reputation as an organisation liable to do the stupid reflex sacking you see in Euro Football -- win the league one year with a team expected to be relegated, then sacked halfway through the next season!
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https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-team-week-round-8
Akira Ioane (Blues) must be mentioned for his supreme defensive showing against the Chiefs, where he made 19 tackles and won two turnovers for his team.
Should he decide to stay in Japan for another two years and complete the required residency tenure, Michael Little would be a valuable asset to the Japanese national team, as his showings for the Sunwolves this season are beginning to prove. The former Blues midfielder has been a constant attacking weapon for the Sunwolves in 2018, and while they went down 50-29 against the Waratahs over the weekend, Little didn’t go down wondering what could have been. The diminutive second-five carried the ball 15 times to chalk up an incredible 132 metres from a trio of clean breaks. His ability to weave his way through and around defences proved to be hugely profitable for his side, as the 25-year- old scored one try and assisted two others. A solitary turnover won for the Japanese outfit capped off a sensational display for Little.
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@Chester-Draws on the other hand, the Blues season is over and it would give the new coach the rest of the season evaluate the players, coaches, facilities/resources and give valuable information for what needs to change.
Keeping a shit coach like Tana just means we spin our wheels making the same mistakes and waste the rest of the year.
It would also allow us to attract talent when we go to recruit. Who’s going to come to the Blues and get “coached” by this guy?
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@bones said in Blues 2018:
@tim "real professional sport"?
Bidwell, if he was a real sports journalist we might care what he has to say. Bin it with all his other mutterings.
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@Chester-Draws on the other hand, the Blues season is over and it would give the new coach the rest of the season evaluate the players, coaches, facilities/resources and give valuable information for what needs to change.
Keeping a shit coach like Tana just means we spin our wheels making the same mistakes and waste the rest of the year.
It would also allow us to attract talent when we go to recruit. Who’s going to come to the Blues and get “coached” by this guy?
A minute after the last game you sack him. That gives heaps of time to appoint a new coach. Especially if you do some discrete head-hunting first.
In the meantime "he has the board's full confidence" followed by a couple of Herald articles that firmly refute that he will be sacked. That should get the message out without having to actively shame him.
How many players will you lose in that time? You're not allowed to recruit mid-season.
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A minute after the last game you sack him. That gives heaps of time to appoint a new coach. Especially if you do some discrete head-hunting first.
In the meantime "he has the board's full confidence" followed by a couple of Herald articles that firmly refute that he will be sacked. That should get the message out without having to actively shame him.
How many players will you lose in that time? You're not allowed to recruit mid-season.
@chester-draws someone forgot to tell NH teams they can't recruit mid-season
