All Blacks vs Boks

[Bones]

@mimic Well hello Mimic Hinton.

[reprobate]

hames i've seen a bit up and down scrum-wise, but there are lots of variables... given how laulala has been going, and coles back, and first choice locks - this is a bloody good unit to have him in and see how he goes - and with crockett on the bench there's no real risk, just a matter of how long you leave hames out there.
didn't see the pumas-SA game, but the saffas were dominant in the scrum i hear? be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
it's pretty much cult-hero stuff being a newly-selected front-rower who is too quick with his mouth for a journo too, funny shit.

[pakman]

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:

@Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging
What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

Sounds about right.

Scrum dogs like NTA will know better, but to me Hames at 5' 11" with short legs (but able to squat 250kg) is always going to be underneath top level THs, who are usually 6' 1" or more. Their standard response is subtly to push downwards. So inherently unstable. Often leads to collapse or TH being popped. Not clear to me that either side is innocent, but often LH pinged for not holding scrum up or something similar.

Expect similar tactics from Dreyer. In Super final shut the gate on Moody several times when he was starting to angle in.

[pakman]

@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:

@Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:

What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.

I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging
What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.

Greenandgold would agree: http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/analysis-wallabies-scrum-issues-against-lions/

[Chester Draws]

@Rocky-Rockbottom said in All Blacks vs Boks:

Jesus. Look at this guy . Gets pwnd and THIS is his comeback? That is an embarrassingly lame retort for a purported professional journalist. Doesn’t take a PROFESSIONAL WRITER to deduce that it’s pretty much accepted, colloquially, that “not renowned” is synonymous with “shit”.

Too right. The technical name for it is Litotes. It is a huge part of Kiwi speech, and sometimes a thing that can trap foreigners (especially Yanks) who talk more literally. I have no idea what Hinton's excuse is.

Other standard rugby examples include:
"Pretty average" = shit
"Ordinary" = very poor
"Not bad" = very good

[Crucial]

OK. I'm in Paris for the weekend. Anyone know a place I can watch the rugby that may be open at 0930?

Edit: a suggestion or two in the next eight hours would be good.

[Tim]

@Crucial Finding a place open at 9:30 am is generally pretty tough.

L'Equipe lists these bars though:

http://ebar.lequipe.fr/matches/Paris/rugby-championship-new-zealand-south-africa-16-09-2017

[Tim]

@Crucial I used to work near this Saffa bar, and it says it's open.

http://www.lapommedeve.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=38&Itemid=88

Never actually went for a drink there, but it looked tolerable.

[Tim]

Café Six might be more civilised.

19 rue Canettes
75006 Paris

http://www.allomatch.com/bar-sportif/paris/cafe-six.html

[Crucial]

@Tim Cheers. I'm going to give that a go.

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[Stockcar86]

In memory of Harry Dean Stanton, his 1960's lookalike is singing the Saffa anthem

[mimic]

DMac with another drop..

[Virgil]

First of 100 up and unders coming dmacs way tonight

[No Quarter]

Worst possible start for DMac.

[Donsteppa]

Dmac continues where he left off...

[kiwiinmelb]

Going up high for a chest mark with his elbows really wide apart

[KiwiMurph]

Nothing is Dmacs fault according to the coaches - cant have been his error

[broughie]

Did not touch it with his hands. That bad. Should not have been a knock on.