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ABs v Scotland

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  • westcoastieW Offline
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    @dogmeat @taniwharugby
    If I was selector, I'd move SBW to bench. Maybe drop him for being an egg. Happy to give Goodhue a go. (although he too is playing vs French XV)
    yes combo did work better v French than at any other time recently.
    It'll end up being SBW 12, Crotty 13. But yeh, I'd like the other way around

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      I thought SBW/Crotty worked better than it has all season - until the obvious.

      Shag obviously considers the combination our best option. In which case I'm all in favour of them having as much time together as possible

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      @dogmeat said in ABs v Scotland:

      I thought SBW/Crotty worked better than it has all season - until the obvious.

      Shag obviously considers the combination our best option. In which case I'm all in favour of them having as much time together as possible

      Agree, the SBW/Crotty combo was the highlight of the first half for me, and given the second half probably the highlight of the game bar Whitelock and Cane getting shit done on behalf of the rest of the team in the final 30 minutes.

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      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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        Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

        Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

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          The combination of Crotty/Crotty functioned impressively when it was tried for a short period.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

            Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

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            @act-crusader said in ABs v Scotland:

            Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

            Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

            This is what I was talking about in another thread about how the persistence from the selectors is all around getting SBW comfortable playing a multi skilled role (eg Nonu).
            We saw good signs in that game especially the quality kick through for the try.

            Shag is not going to throw away his development plan because some reacts instinctively to a rare situation.

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              #23

              people have become so blasé about when our team is named, Hansen is gonna delay it this week!

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98933295/all-blacks-delay-team-naming-pondering-final-selections-for-scotland-test

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                people have become so blasé about when our team is named, Hansen is gonna delay it this week!

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98933295/all-blacks-delay-team-naming-pondering-final-selections-for-scotland-test

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                @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                people have become so blasé about when our team is named, Hansen is gonna delay it this week!

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98933295/all-blacks-delay-team-naming-pondering-final-selections-for-scotland-test

                My god! The fern will go into meltdown with people asking when the team will be named!

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                  people have become so blasé about when our team is named, Hansen is gonna delay it this week!

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98933295/all-blacks-delay-team-naming-pondering-final-selections-for-scotland-test

                  My god! The fern will go into meltdown with people asking when the team will be named!

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                  @crucial but what does it all mean??? When is the team named?

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                  • dogmeatD Offline
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                    and is it NZ time, Scottish time or French time - as they seem to control WR now?

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                      Don't worry Ferners, the last sentence of that article says all you need to know. 🕕

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                      • dogmeatD Offline
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                        But how do we know it's not FAKE NEWS!

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                        • BovidaeB Offline
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                          It must be 5 am Thu somewhere!!

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                          • dogmeatD dogmeat

                            But how do we know it's not FAKE NEWS!

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                            @dogmeat said in ABs v Scotland:

                            But how do we know it's not FAKE NEWS!

                            Because @Salacious-Crumb hasnt posted a large font headline about it?

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                              Anyone think they’ll give Mo’unga a go from the bench? It would seem a good game for it, and he’s been relatively impressive so far.

                              Apart from that, the only other question is whether Squire/Ioane is needed. If Read is out, Barrett to captain with Fifita, Cane, and Squire? Or, do you give Ioane his chance?

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                                Anyone think they’ll give Mo’unga a go from the bench? It would seem a good game for it, and he’s been relatively impressive so far.

                                Apart from that, the only other question is whether Squire/Ioane is needed. If Read is out, Barrett to captain with Fifita, Cane, and Squire? Or, do you give Ioane his chance?

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                                @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

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                                  @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                  Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

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                                  @mariner4life said in ABs v Scotland:

                                  @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                  Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

                                  The Scots back row is no great shakes either considering some of the good players they've had in the past.

                                  Why the Fifita hate? He's incredible with ball in hand, is he no good at his core roles?

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                    Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

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                                    @mariner4life it's Yo-Arnie!

                                    Read will be sweet, just playing mind games to put the mighty Scots off their game.

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                                      @mariner4life said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                      Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

                                      The Scots back row is no great shakes either considering some of the good players they've had in the past.

                                      Why the Fifita hate? He's incredible with ball in hand, is he no good at his core roles?

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                                      @mn5 said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      @mariner4life said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                      Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

                                      The Scots back row is no great shakes either considering some of the good players they've had in the past.

                                      Why the Fifita hate? He's incredible with ball in hand, is he no good at his core roles?

                                      god you tick so many "fairweather, glory hunting, barely knowledgeable rugby fan" boxes.

                                      I'm sure his youtube highlight reel is just amazing

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @gt12 if the Scottish pack fronts up, that's a non-entity back row. Fifita isn't good enough, Squire is a downhill skier. Cane will have to do it all alone again.

                                        Get You-are-knee the larger in there.

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                                        @mariner4life

                                        Fifita, Cane, Ioane could be just as problematic; two players who don’t necessarily show it via work rate. With Todd and Barrett on the bench, they’d still be two reasonable back ups available.

                                        For me, I’d rather give opportunities to some of the guys who had less minutes last game.

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                                        • gt12G gt12

                                          @mariner4life

                                          Fifita, Cane, Ioane could be just as problematic; two players who don’t necessarily show it via work rate. With Todd and Barrett on the bench, they’d still be two reasonable back ups available.

                                          For me, I’d rather give opportunities to some of the guys who had less minutes last game.

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                                          @gt12 I'm in the minority i know, but Barrett isn't a good enough lock, let alone blindside, to play regular test rugby.

                                          I love how the myth of Ioane's workrate continues. Haven't the Auckland and Blues guys dispelled that enough. Certainly whenever I've watched him in big games he's got through a shit ton of work. And been effective.

                                          And i would have cut Fifita first, not Squire.

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