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ABs v Scotland

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    @gt12 I'm in the minority i know, but Barrett isn't a good enough lock, let alone blindside, to play regular test rugby.

    I love how the myth of Ioane's workrate continues. Haven't the Auckland and Blues guys dispelled that enough. Certainly whenever I've watched him in big games he's got through a shit ton of work. And been effective.

    And i would have cut Fifita first, not Squire.

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    @mariner4life Squire was sick wasn't he, so not dropped?

    I think Fifita is better coming off the bench, but it does create an issue if Read is out, does Luke get the nod as the only other out and out 8?

    could go with Cane, Todd & Savea to take the piss haha

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @mariner4life Squire was sick wasn't he, so not dropped?

      I think Fifita is better coming off the bench, but it does create an issue if Read is out, does Luke get the nod as the only other out and out 8?

      could go with Cane, Todd & Savea to take the piss haha

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      @taniwharugby haha the Aussie way? How many opensides can i fit in the team?

      Cane, Todd, Ioane. There you go. thumping hits, big runs in traffic, menace at the breakdown. sorted.

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      • gt12G gt12

        Anyone think they’ll give Mo’unga a go from the bench? It would seem a good game for it, and he’s been relatively impressive so far.

        Apart from that, the only other question is whether Squire/Ioane is needed. If Read is out, Barrett to captain with Fifita, Cane, and Squire? Or, do you give Ioane his chance?

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        @gt12

        I thought that the extras used for the French XV game (and Kaino) were going home this week.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @gt12

          I thought that the extras used for the French XV game (and Kaino) were going home this week.

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          @bovidae

          Isn’t Ioane staying?

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            @bovidae

            Isn’t Ioane staying?

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            @gt12 Ioane staying with the team, Luke Whitelock going home.

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            • TimT Tim

              @gt12 Ioane staying with the team, Luke Whitelock going home.

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              @tim

              Thought so.

              Despite my reservations about him (mainly temperament and in some games work rate), I want to see him get a real go. I’d probably start him this week. At least, I hope he gets some real minutes.

              I thought you’d have been all over my earlier post - I was glad to see that the batsign went off over Mimic’s.

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                @tim

                Thought so.

                Despite my reservations about him (mainly temperament and in some games work rate), I want to see him get a real go. I’d probably start him this week. At least, I hope he gets some real minutes.

                I thought you’d have been all over my earlier post - I was glad to see that the batsign went off over Mimic’s.

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                @gt12 said in ABs v Scotland:

                temperament

                Never given away a card for foul play, even if he loves the niggle. Compare to how many Coles gave away, even when he was an established test player.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @mariner4life Squire was sick wasn't he, so not dropped?

                  I think Fifita is better coming off the bench, but it does create an issue if Read is out, does Luke get the nod as the only other out and out 8?

                  could go with Cane, Todd & Savea to take the piss haha

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                  @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                  @mariner4life Squire was sick wasn't he, so not dropped?

                  I think Fifita is better coming off the bench, but it does create an issue if Read is out, does Luke get the nod as the only other out and out 8?

                  could go with Cane, Todd & Savea to take the piss haha

                  Is there a different team to the one that lost to Fiji and just beat Samoa?.

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                    If Read is out I'd roll with Cane 8, Todd 7, Squire 6 and Akira on the bench.

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      If Read is out I'd roll with Cane 8, Todd 7, Squire 6 and Akira on the bench.

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                      @kiwimurph said in ABs v Scotland:

                      If Read is out I'd roll with Cane 8, Todd 7, Squire 6 and Akira on the bench.

                      You wouldn't swap Cane and Squire?

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @kiwimurph said in ABs v Scotland:

                        If Read is out I'd roll with Cane 8, Todd 7, Squire 6 and Akira on the bench.

                        You wouldn't swap Cane and Squire?

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                        @antipodean potentially - but Cane played 8 last test after Read went off - Squire hasn't played 8 for a while (I don't think?)

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @gt12 Ioane staying with the team, Luke Whitelock going home.

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                          @tim although if Read is under an injury cloud, maybe they have kept him on? One would assume the ones coming back would be on a plane by now....

                          If Read is out, cant see them starting Akira, although I guess of the tests this 'should' be the easiest one...need to put 50 on them by 40 so our 2nd half slump doesn't cost us.

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                            Ioane is Kaino's replacement but I doubt they'll use him in the 23. As @KiwiMurph says, more likely Cane moves to 8 in a re-arranged loose forward trio. No need to risk Read if he isn't 100% fit.

                            S Barrett could also be an option at 6 off the bench if involved.

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                              Squire - 6, Todd and Cane at 6 with Akira on he bench. Bring Squire off on the hour mark, switch Cane to 6 and let Akira rip into the Jocks for the last 20.

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                                Squire - 6, Todd and Cane at 6 with Akira on he bench. Bring Squire off on the hour mark, switch Cane to 6 and let Akira rip into the Jocks for the last 20.

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                                @crash said in ABs v Scotland:

                                Squire - 6, Todd and Cane at 6 with Akira on he bench. Bring Squire off on the hour mark, switch Cane to 6 and let Akira rip into the Jocks for the last 20.

                                Funny looking scrum set up bro 😉

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                                  It's only fucken Scotland. Stop getting your tits in a tangle.

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                                    It's only fucken Scotland. Stop getting your tits in a tangle.

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                                    @mn5 said in ABs v Scotland:

                                    It's only fucken Scotland. Stop getting your tits in a tangle.

                                    We remember Chicago.

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                                      @mn5 said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      It's only fucken Scotland. Stop getting your tits in a tangle.

                                      We remember Chicago.

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                                      @crucial said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      @mn5 said in ABs v Scotland:

                                      It's only fucken Scotland. Stop getting your tits in a tangle.

                                      We remember Chicago.

                                      I think we only need to worry if Hibernian win the Champions League the same week!

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                                        Team named at 5pm UK time (6am for you in NZ).

                                        That's also effectively late at night in Edinburgh as it will probably be dark at 3.

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                                          It would seem the only issues are the fitness of Romero and Read. As I've posted before, I prefer a power lock with Sam W, so if Luke out I'd like to see Pat T get a start. Barrett (S) on bench.

                                          Read is more complicated. If he's out I'd like to see Sam Cane as captain. For me Fifita and Akira are a bit samey, so Squire to start. He plays the tightest of the three so I'd put at 6. That would mean Akira at 8.

                                          That said, I expect wise men would prefer Fifita to be in 23, and Todd on bench. On that basis the logic would be Fifita at 6 and Squire at 8. Which would mean Cane would cover any injury to Squire.

                                          But then again read might be passed fit!

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