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6N 2018

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  • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

    Eddie's England reminds me of how Lancaster's England looked shortly before he got the boot.
    They look tired, lacklustre and simply unfit. Mako Vunipola is just fat and constantly bores in. Hartley for all his faults is better than George, and is obviously the leader. England looked rudderless for most of that game. No threat on attack, France were able to confine them to the central channels, and all their attack consisted of was trucking it up the middle, or even worse running laterally across field. I would have expected something more from Eddie and the senoir players. Interesting to see how he addreses the attack structure in particular.
    Having said all that, I fully expect England to come out and smack Ireland this week.

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    @shadowtrooper said in 6N 2018:

    Eddie's England reminds me of how Lancaster's England looked shortly before he got the boot.
    They look tired, lacklustre and simply unfit. Mako Vunipola is just fat and constantly bores in. Hartley for all his faults is better than George, and is obviously the leader. England looked rudderless for most of that game. No threat on attack, France were able to confine them to the central channels, and all their attack consisted of was trucking it up the middle, or even worse running laterally across field. I would have expected something more from Eddie and the senoir players. Interesting to see how he addreses the attack structure in particular.
    Having said all that, I fully expect England to come out and smack Ireland this week.

    Why? Ireland are disciplined and structured. They are vulnerable out wide but not sure England have the wherewithal to « smack » Ireland.

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      Interesting and exciting start to the Wales v Italy match.

      Both sides trying to play positive, attractive rugby.

      Wales leading 14-7 (2 tries to 1 try) with Wales having one try correctly disallowed for offside

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        Italy controlling the match.

        Dererved penalty to Italy but missed kick.

        Wales 14 - 7 Italy
        33 mins gone

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          Match has gone off the boil.

          Accidental offside against Italy.

          Anscombe kicks the penalty.

          Wales 17 - 7 Italy
          38 mins gone

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            Liam Williams gets yellow carded for a high hit. Reverses a Welsh penalty.

            Very dubious IMHO.

            Although there was no need to make the tackle.

            Wales 17 - 7 Italy
            Half time

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              Wales score early with a man down.

              Then Gareth Davies gets sin binned forca slap down.

              Wales down to 13.

              Wales 24 - 7 Italy
              50 mins gone

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                Liam Williams done for the day.

                Halfpenny on

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                  60 mons gone

                  Aled Davies on for Gareth Davies, Patchell on for Anscombe.

                  Ken Owens and Rob Evans on in the front row

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                    Wales looking for the 4th try, a BP, and second place in the table.

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                      Parkes with his signature spin in the tackle and over.

                      TMO

                      No try.

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                        Great pass out of the tackle from Patchell to North for the fourth try and BP

                        Wales 31 - 7 Italy
                        67 mins gone

                        Ellis Jenkins on for James Davies, Seb Davies on for Cory Hill

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                          That's more like it. Letting the ball do the work and Tipuric is in at the corner

                          Wales 38 - 7 Italy
                          72 mins gone

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                            Good perseverance from Italy to go over in the corner

                            Wales 38 - 14 Italy
                            76 mins gone

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                              Wales try to finish with a flourish but a knock on denies North his hattrick.

                              Wales 38 - 14 Italy
                              Full time

                              Hadleigh Parkes deserved MOTM

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                                Good win for Wales. Stuck to the task even when down one or two men.

                                Patchell to start next week please.

                                Great to see North with a smile on his face.

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                                  I only glimpsed it at the pub but how did that shoulder to the head escape a red card from a french ref?
                                  Couldn’t see much difference to the SBW red. Clumsy contact shoulder to head

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                                    Reaction in the papers seems to vary between realism and believing Eddie that it is just a little 'tough period'.

                                    What got lost in the euphoria last year was that they could just as easily have been in a poor position in the 6N then as well with a couple of close escapes.

                                    What looks to have happened is that the flaws were advertised last year and purchased by the opposition this year. Meanwhile England have done nothing to change either their style or mindset.

                                    They went into that game yesterday knowing that they needed 4 tries yet (arrogantly?) decided that they would grind the French into playing like chooks instead of Roosters and reap the rewards late in the game. A risky plan that didn't come off at all.

                                    I can't believe the debate in some quarters about the PT, with it being referred to as either a harsh call or 'unfair' (good old Kaplan again). You could show a clip of that PT in training videos as a correct call. In most games that would have been a YC if the tackle was in general play. When done against a player a metre from an open line the call is pretty simple.

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                                    @crucial BBC is starting to hint at concern

                                    "Jones has often got quick improvements from teams he has taken over. He hasn't always been able to sustain it. There is a reason why he has never lasted more than four years in one job."

                                    http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/43360744

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                                      an unwanted record...and a shitty headline.

                                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12010929

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                                        @crucial BBC is starting to hint at concern

                                        "Jones has often got quick improvements from teams he has taken over. He hasn't always been able to sustain it. There is a reason why he has never lasted more than four years in one job."

                                        http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/43360744

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                                        @dogmeat said in 6N 2018:

                                        @crucial BBC is starting to hint at concern

                                        "Jones has often got quick improvements from teams he has taken over. He hasn't always been able to sustain it. There is a reason why he has never lasted more than four years in one job."

                                        http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/43360744

                                        The expected Stephen Jones roast in the Times was funny. He (of course) blamed NZ and Oz rugby for convincing everyone that the game should be played fast and with ball movement. His solution is for England to stop trying to play and just put their heads down and bash.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          an unwanted record...and a shitty headline.

                                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12010929

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                                          @taniwharugby said in 6N 2018:

                                          an unwanted record...and a shitty headline.

                                          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12010929

                                          I actually find it a disgusting article and headline. He's an international, a good player in a team that may be the weakest in the 6 Nations and no. 14 in the world rankings, but reaching 133 test caps is a huge achievement nevertheless. He deserves respect, not rubbish like this.

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