Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@barbarian said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Haha yeah, I think anyone that has played the game knows it is highly likely the entire team knew what was going on, and in particular the fast bowlers who take a very keen interest in the condition of the ball.
So the story that has been relayed to me (third hand, but supposedly from a knowledgeable source) is as follows:
As the players were coming back onto the field for lunch, Warner and Bancroft were chatting in the corner of the sheds. Warner had been under scrutiny from the umpires for the tape on his hand, so he was trying to talk Bancroft into his scheme.
As Bancroft was keen, Warner was showing him how to do it. Smith saw/overheard and his response was 'I don't want to know about it' and went out on the field.
When it all was caught, the full confession was Smith's idea. He thought it would just be a slap on the wrist, as has always happened in these instances. However in his attempts to protect Bancroft and Warner, he inadvertently made it sound like a grand conspiracy. Cue shit storm and 12 month bans.
Now I obviously can't vouch this is 100% legit, but it seems to fit with the actions taken by CA.
Hah, interesting, though you'll have a very hard time convincing me that the quicks were completely oblivious to what was happening.
So one thing we can deduce from that story is that Bancroft is apparently as think as Warner. Seriously, that is some fucking braindead shit to try at international level in a hotly contested series.
It also highlights how Smith was not cut out for the captaincy. Would Waugh, Border et al have turned a blind eye to that, or immediately bent both Warner and Bancroft over their knee and given them the spanking of a lifetime for even contemplating something so retarded? The inmates really were running the asylum in that team.
Long term this is probably a good thing for Aus cricket, but they're gonna go through some serious pain the the short term.
@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Hah, interesting, though you'll have a very hard time convincing me that the quicks were completely oblivious to what was happening.
So one thing we can deduce from that story is that Bancroft is apparently as think as Warner. Seriously, that is some fucking braindead shit to try at international level in a hotly contested series.
It also highlights how Smith was not cut out for the captaincy. Would Waugh, Border et al have turned a blind eye to that, or immediately bent both Warner and Bancroft over their knee and given them the spanking of a lifetime for even contemplating something so retarded? The inmates really were running the asylum in that team.
Long term this is probably a good thing for Aus cricket, but they're gonna go through some serious pain the the short term.
Agree, although I can see a scenario where the bowlers didn't know. Every side has a designated ball shiner, who the ball is thrown to between every delivery. They know their job, and do it without much consultation with the bowlers.
It's possible that there was an understanding that Warner would employ various dark arts to help the ball reverse (which I imagine are employed by all teams), but when Warner decided to go nuclear that they weren't in the loop.
And it's clear the sandpaper strategy wasn't immediately obvious to anyone holding the ball - not the bowlers, not the umpires. It wasn't even replaced.
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@barbarian adding further salt in terms of them not even being able to cheat very well!
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@virgil and that, right there, is my biggest fear with all this. 12 months means they are out for the Indian tour. Anything that helps those fuckers get the possibility of a series win in Australia should be thrown out.
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil and that, right there, is my biggest fear with all this. 12 months means they are out for the Indian tour. Anything that helps those fuckers get the possibility of a series win in Australia should be thrown out.
Yup only team that’s more unlikable then Australia is India.
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Oh please. When has Australia EVER been bereft of quality batsmen? They'll pluck some other freakish youngster from Sheffield Shield or wherever, he'll slot in and score runs like he's been born to the post, and the team will mosey on. It's what the fuckers do. *
- See also why other countries hate the All Blacks. A great retires, another one steps up. Because it's the #1 sport, in the blood from a young age.
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I don’t know, I can see them struggling, they have lost their 2 best batsmen. The Sheffield shield isn’t anywhere near as strong as it once was. Remember when they used to have guys scoring over 10,000 first class runs @50 who couldn’t break into the team?
Look who they are bringing over for the 4th test. 3 guys who have each been discarded in recent times.
Their bowling depth is fine, batting not so. -
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil and that, right there, is my biggest fear with all this. 12 months means they are out for the Indian tour. Anything that helps those fuckers get the possibility of a series win in Australia should be thrown out.
Yup only team that’s more unlikable then Australia is India.
@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@virgil and that, right there, is my biggest fear with all this. 12 months means they are out for the Indian tour. Anything that helps those fuckers get the possibility of a series win in Australia should be thrown out.
Yup only team that’s more unlikable then Australia is India.
Wtf? Kohli is a first rate plum but the rest of the team seem like decent blokes and are definitely a lot more likeable than the Aussies.
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I don’t know, I can see them struggling, they have lost their 2 best batsmen. The Sheffield shield isn’t anywhere near as strong as it once was. Remember when they used to have guys scoring over 10,000 first class runs @50 who couldn’t break into the team?
Look who they are bringing over for the 4th test. 3 guys who have each been discarded in recent times.
Their bowling depth is fine, batting not so.@virgil said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I don’t know, I can see them struggling, they have lost their 2 best batsmen. The Sheffield shield isn’t anywhere near as strong as it once was. Remember when they used to have guys scoring over 10,000 first class runs @50 who couldn’t break into the team?
Look who they are bringing over for the 4th test. 3 guys who have each been discarded in recent times.
Their bowling depth is fine, batting not so.Maybe. But I don't discount the power of a stronger captain, a calmer, more disciplined changing room, and a bunch of Aussies thinking it's us against the world and fuck you we're going to come back stronger, either.
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I think things have got out of hand. If the media hate campaign continues, it could end in tragedy.
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I think things have got out of hand. If the media hate campaign continues, it could end in tragedy.
@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I think things have got out of hand. If the media hate campaign continues, it could end in tragedy.
The lynch mob is far worse than any punishment the ICC and CA could dish out. Lehman talked about being concerned for the welfare of the players.
Kane's comments re: Warner were a good attempt to try and break up the mob mentality a bit. He's very fucking far from the worst person in Australia let alone the world but you wouldn't know it right now.
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I see ( almost like it's irrelevant given what's going on ) that Steve Smith has an average of 61. That's fucken head and shoulders above everyone except he who may not have even existed ( I never saw Bradman bat, perhaps he's just made up ). It's better than Kohli, Root and old mate KW.
So yeah I hear all the talk of recent years and how many brilliant batsmen they had but I think Virg is correct in that a few mid 30s journeyman get a shot for Australia. Losing Smith would be an absolute MASSIVE loss.
In other musings.....what the actual fuck was he thinking? Cheating is supposed to be what people who are no good do.....not the best players!
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@baron-silas-greenback said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I think things have got out of hand. If the media hate campaign continues, it could end in tragedy.
The lynch mob is far worse than any punishment the ICC and CA could dish out. Lehman talked about being concerned for the welfare of the players.
Kane's comments re: Warner were a good attempt to try and break up the mob mentality a bit. He's very fucking far from the worst person in Australia let alone the world but you wouldn't know it right now.
@no-quarter Yep. The headlines claiming this is Aussie sport's darkest day etc etc are fucking ridiculous. In the scheme of things, league has provided infinitely more dark moments. I mean when you think of the domestic violence, sexual assault, harassment, drugs and doping, salary cap infringements... a few dickheads with sandpaper kind of pales in comparison.
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@no-quarter Yep. The headlines claiming this is Aussie sport's darkest day etc etc are fucking ridiculous. In the scheme of things, league has provided infinitely more dark moments. I mean when you think of the domestic violence, sexual assault, harassment, drugs and doping, salary cap infringements... a few dickheads with sandpaper kind of pales in comparison.
@mokey salary cap "infringements" happen all the time.
What we've seen in the NRL is systematic cheating running through every level of clubs, from the boards down. It's far worse than what we have here.
But most NRL players and coaches aren't half as sanctimonious as Warner, in particular, manages.
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I think the level of outrage is more down to what cricket means in the Australian psyche compared to what League means. Where boganicity is pretty much expected and even applauded to a degree.
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So anyway I've heard calls for Mitch Marsh to take over the captaincy. Seems legit @NTA
@no-quarter said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
So anyway I've heard calls for Mitch Marsh to take over the captaincy. Seems legit @NTA
There's a bag of dicks somewhere with your name on it
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I think the level of outrage is more down to what cricket means in the Australian psyche compared to what League means. Where boganicity is pretty much expected and even applauded to a degree.
@catogrande said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I think the level of outrage is more down to what cricket means in the Australian psyche compared to what League means. Where boganicity is pretty much expected and even applauded to a degree.
If Warner was a league player he would be a legend.
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Good article by Michael Hussey
https://www.playersvoice.com.au/michael-hussey-truly-remembered-for/
