Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket
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@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel you say he used the kids as a screen.
I say he was just taking them to the car after a long flight.
You say you can see through him to his scheming sympathy garnering via his toddlers
I say I see a man who's lost a terrble amount and wants to take himself, his wife and kids home, and carrying one of the kids through the airport to the car is how you do that.
And I see a guy who got caught hook line and sinker.
If I'd done something like this and knew that the press would meet me at the airport, there is no farking way Id let my family get off the plane until I'd gone through. It's disgusting and so obviously transparent. But if you think it's acceptable then that's your opinion and I won't be asking you to take a look at yourself.
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@rancid-schnitzel how do you hold up the plane for an hour And insist the wife and 2 irritable kids stay on board?
Serious question
@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel how do you hold up the plane for an hour And insist the wife and 2 irritable kids stay on board?
Serious question
What? That must have been the only option right. I mean he could never have just gotten off first could he? That would have been a logistical nightmare.
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@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@rancid-schnitzel how do you hold up the plane for an hour And insist the wife and 2 irritable kids stay on board?
Serious question
What? That must have been the only option right. I mean he could never have just gotten off first could he? That would have been a logistical nightmare.
@rancid-schnitzel who carries the child? Candice can only carry one, who carries the other?
I can fully explain my scenario from the plane arrival to home. He carries the kid to the car obstructed somewhat by the rigours of his job
Your scenario involves a confirmation of his character that is not obvious from observation of these events.
Your narrative implies further deceipt from a convicted cheater.
My narrative implies he's beaten and fucked whatever he does.
Could he not be pr plotting, but rather just taking the family home?
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@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The everlasting and grave psychological trauma for a 3 year old being carried through a partially full airport (way less commotion than Indian airports) to a taxi service outside the terminal, enroute to home, in Daddy's arms is being slightly overstated here I think
Yes because that's what has been argued by no one.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@siam said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The everlasting and grave psychological trauma for a 3 year old being carried through a partially full airport (way less commotion than Indian airports) to a taxi service outside the terminal, enroute to home, in Daddy's arms is being slightly overstated here I think
Yes because that's what has been argued by no one.
Ok ..that's enough you are close to having an enforced rest.
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The sad reality is the flip side of this is, Warner walks through the airport alone to take the heat, while the family is ushered out thr side door, the next day there is a photo and the headline is
"Disgraced cricketer abandoned by family"
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TBF, most people at thier dark times want family close by, your kid and thier non-judging innocence will help...yes it was probably contrived and set up to garner some sympathy, but by the same account, having your kid with you at such a low point would be a big comfort.
DDD is still a muppet though.
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I also think that holding your child may help to keep your emotions in check should people / journalists try to bait you.
Reckon I'd have made some better decisions over the years if holding my sleeping 3 year old daughter!
@majorrage said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I also think that holding your child may help to keep your emotions in check should people / journalists try to bait you.
Reckon I'd have made some better decisions over the years if holding my sleeping 3 year old daughter!
Shame Davy wasn’t allowed to carry one of his girls during his cricketing career
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The sad reality is the flip side of this is, Warner walks through the airport alone to take the heat, while the family is ushered out thr side door, the next day there is a photo and the headline is
"Disgraced cricketer abandoned by family"
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
The sad reality is the flip side of this is, Warner walks through the airport alone to take the heat, while the family is ushered out thr side door, the next day there is a photo and the headline is
"Disgraced cricketer abandoned by family"
I would agree with that and then criticism of those claiming that would be more than justified.
Look, I think DW is probably a fantastic father and husband, who is devoted to his family. I applaud him for having them on tour and anyone who criticises him for that is a cnut. But in this case it was quite clear he was trying to get sympathy and to get through the media with as least amount of harassment as possible. As much as he loves his family and they him, this is something he has done and he should be a man and leave them out of it, not use them to relieve pressure on himself.
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TBF, most people at thier dark times want family close by, your kid and thier non-judging innocence will help...yes it was probably contrived and set up to garner some sympathy, but by the same account, having your kid with you at such a low point would be a big comfort.
DDD is still a muppet though.
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
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I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
Who's alleging he's a hard man?
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I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
Wow. You are so tough. Incredible how you are mentally tougher than a successful test cricket opener
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Just for fun...
Spitballs, nail files, and other ways pitchers cheat
http://theweek.com/articles/464750/spitballs-nail-files-other-ways-pitchers-cheat
Bonus:
https://www.metro.us/sports/5-infamous-pitcher-ejections-for-cheating/tmWndx---1fyWmNN8U2bhcBoner-bonus: Joe Niekro talks about ball-scuffing.
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@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
I see some people still have sympathy for Warner.
Me. I see the tears -- from an alleged hard man -- and think "fuckin' sook".
No, I haven't been through that sort of thing on that scale. But there'd be none of the blubbing, that I am sure of.
He was game for abuse. Now he's reaping the reward.
Wow. You are so tough. Incredible how you are mentally tougher than a successful test cricket opener
Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
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If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental. Smith was criticised for handing the first question of the press conference to Bancroft. Maybe he did that because he did not have prior knowledge of the plan. Of course, it is also possible that it isn't true.
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If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental. Smith was criticised for handing the first question of the press conference to Bancroft. Maybe he did that because he did not have prior knowledge of the plan. Of course, it is also possible that it isn't true.
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental.
Hydro, meet the fern
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@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental.
Hydro, meet the fern
@mariner4life said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
@hydro11 said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
If this is true, some people on here look quite judgemental.
Hydro, meet the fern
Ferners call it how they see it with the information available at the time
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Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
You think all that happened was that he cried about losing his job? That is the the reason he was upset? You clearly havent been paying attention to the sheer level and breadth of vitriol.
If you think someone crying after the ridicule and vitriol he has faced is a 'fucking sook', I think you are full of shit and any claim that you are somehow tougher than him is blow hard bullshit. You have never faced even a fraction of what he is currently facing.
Is he a good man? Not on the field, but apparently off it he is, after speaking to people with first hand knowledge. Not that it matters because it is irrelevant to the discussion about you calling him a fucking sook for crying. Nobody should ever be called a fucking sook for crying, it is that exact kind of fake bravado and bullshit that means males have suicide rates waaay above females.Without exception it is the guys who claim others are sooks and that they are tough are the exact same ones with deep seated insecurities and weakness.
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@chester-draws said in Convicts v Marxist Land Thieves - Crucket:
Actually, I suspect I am tougher mentally in many respects.
I haven't punched anyone who pissed me off.
I haven't broken down in tears when my career was on the line for a mistake (which, sadly, it once was). I fronted up immediately. I never blamed anyone else or "stress".
Off course I would be a total fussy facing a fast ball, but the cricket parts of Warner's career are admirable. It's behaviour when he's not batting that is the issue.
I have never mocked decent people the way he has because they showed weakness. The way he has taunted some of the Poms was disgusting.
How bad would his behaviour have to be for you to accept that he's not a good man?
You think all that happened was that he cried about losing his job? That is the the reason he was upset? You clearly havent been paying attention to the sheer level and breadth of vitriol.
If you think someone crying after the ridicule and vitriol he has faced is a 'fucking sook', I think you are full of shit and any claim that you are somehow tougher than him is blow hard bullshit. You have never faced even a fraction of what he is currently facing.
Is he a good man? Not on the field, but apparently off it he is, after speaking to people with first hand knowledge. Not that it matters because it is irrelevant to the discussion about you calling him a fucking sook for crying. Nobody should ever be called a fucking sook for crying, it is that exact kind of fake bravado and bullshit that means males have suicide rates waaay above females.Without exception it is the guys who claim others are sooks and that they are tough are the exact same ones with deep seated insecurities and weakness.
What has he "gone through" exactly? He's still richer than shit, still one of the best batsmen in the world, still has at least 5 years of cricket earnings ahead of him, still has his family intact. Same goes for the other two.
If that's the worst torment these guys will face in their otherwise incredible lives then I'd take it tenfold right now. If there should be some perspective about their "crime" then there should also be some perspective about the apparently terrible ordeal they're now going through.
