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2018 School Rugby

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  • mikedogzM mikedogz

    The Waikato/Counties combined comp is not happening this year.

    Waikato 1st XV will be:
    Cambridge High School
    Morrinsville College
    Matamata College
    Hillcrest High School
    Te Awamutu College
    Tokoroa High School
    HBHS 1
    HBHS 2

    Grading games happening on Wednesday, St Johns and St Pauls might be there too

    Counties 1st XV will be:
    Alfriston College
    Manurewa HS
    Papakura HS
    Pukekohe HS
    Rosehill College
    Waiuku College

    Wesley and St Peters in CNI not sure what comp St Pauls is in.
    HBHS in top 8

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    @mikedogz What about the Chiefs Cup?

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      #69

      I know Wesley have a game tomorrow against Tauranga. Only info I can find is through Counties draws. no info added on points table.

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      • mikedogzM mikedogz

        The Waikato/Counties combined comp is not happening this year.

        Waikato 1st XV will be:
        Cambridge High School
        Morrinsville College
        Matamata College
        Hillcrest High School
        Te Awamutu College
        Tokoroa High School
        HBHS 1
        HBHS 2

        Grading games happening on Wednesday, St Johns and St Pauls might be there too

        Counties 1st XV will be:
        Alfriston College
        Manurewa HS
        Papakura HS
        Pukekohe HS
        Rosehill College
        Waiuku College

        Wesley and St Peters in CNI not sure what comp St Pauls is in.
        HBHS in top 8

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        @mikedogz St Pauls Collegiate is also in CNI.

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          Hamilton BHS pulled out of the Chiefs Cup because they are usually just playing the same teams they will meet in the Super 8, and Chiefs Top 4 playoffs. Last year Ham BHS played Rotorua BHS 3 times (Chiefs Cup round robin and final, Super 8).

          So they are playing other Hamilton schools but these games aren't always competitive. I went to watch Hamilton BHS play St Johns on Sat. Hamilton won 79-0. This Sat's game against St Peters Cambridge will be closer.

          There is now a University of Waikato Chiefs Secondary Schools Competition featuring other teams from the region. That has replaced the old Chiefs Cup.
          http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/uow

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Hamilton BHS pulled out of the Chiefs Cup because they are usually just playing the same teams they will meet in the Super 8, and Chiefs Top 4 playoffs. Last year Ham BHS played Rotorua BHS 3 times (Chiefs Cup round robin and final, Super 8).

            So they are playing other Hamilton schools but these games aren't always competitive. I went to watch Hamilton BHS play St Johns on Sat. Hamilton won 79-0. This Sat's game against St Peters Cambridge will be closer.

            There is now a University of Waikato Chiefs Secondary Schools Competition featuring other teams from the region. That has replaced the old Chiefs Cup.
            http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/uow

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            @bovidae I see they've split a Chiefs Trophy competition from a Chiefs Cup competition (bottom of the page). Is that because the 6 schools in the Trophy competition would be hammered by Wesley, Rotorua BHS, FDMC and Tauranga if they were in the same comp?

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @bovidae I see they've split a Chiefs Trophy competition from a Chiefs Cup competition (bottom of the page). Is that because the 6 schools in the Trophy competition would be hammered by Wesley, Rotorua BHS, FDMC and Tauranga if they were in the same comp?

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              @stargazer

              There was a Chiefs Cup, Trophy and Bowl last year. The 4 teams in the Cup are definitely the strongest of the remaining teams.

              Click on the different competition links.
              http://www.chiefs.co.nz/matches/matches/results-2017/2017-university-of-waikato-chiefs-cup

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                #74

                St John's has a very green team this year after a run of good players. They were within minutes of beating HBHS only a couple of years' back. That's a big drop for them.

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                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                  St John's has a very green team this year after a run of good players. They were within minutes of beating HBHS only a couple of years' back. That's a big drop for them.

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                  @chester-draws

                  This game was played at St Johns in wet and muddy conditions so that was a decent scoreline from an almost completely new HBHS team (only 5-6 left from last year). When these teams played there a few years back St Johns had a weapon on the wing (Siave Seti) and he scored a couple of tries.

                  As to the game you mentioned (Chiefs Top 4 qualifier), that was a game St Johns should have won but chose to kick to the corner instead of attempting a penalty to draw the game and win on countback. St Johns did bring their own ref that day though. 😉

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                    Christchurch BHS: 43 v Timaru BHS: 5

                    Wesley College: 28 v Tauranga BC: 19

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @chester-draws

                      This game was played at St Johns in wet and muddy conditions so that was a decent scoreline from an almost completely new HBHS team (only 5-6 left from last year). When these teams played there a few years back St Johns had a weapon on the wing (Siave Seti) and he scored a couple of tries.

                      As to the game you mentioned (Chiefs Top 4 qualifier), that was a game St Johns should have won but chose to kick to the corner instead of attempting a penalty to draw the game and win on countback. St Johns did bring their own ref that day though. 😉

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                      @Bovidae

                      Pretty sure St John's would have lost on count-back (if memory serves it was based on position in any competition they both played in, not the normal first try, so Chiefs Cup). In any case the aim was to beat HBHS, not qualify for Top 4.

                      No Waikato team has beaten HBHS for a very long time. The psychological benefits of that would be immense. Qualifying for Top 4 only to get smashed next round, less so.

                      Siave was indeed a beast, but the best guy in that team was Josh Kaho, who is currently making NZ age grade teams.

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                        The updated results and tables of the University of Waikato 2018 Chiefs Secondary Schools Competitions

                        http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/uow

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                          Hamilton BHS 48
                          St Peters Cambridge 5

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                            Here are some other results from the weekend.

                            Rotorua BHS: 10 v Wesley College: 0

                            Otago
                            Mount Aspiring: 65 v King's (2): 0
                            Dunstan: 30 v St Kevin's: 27
                            Waitaki: 31 v South Otago: 15
                            Otago BHS (2): 21 v John McGlashan: 5
                            Kavanagh College: 32 v Taieri College: 24
                            Otago BHS (1): 20 v King's HS: 9

                            North Harbour
                            Westlake BHS: 54 v Whangarei: 12
                            Orewa College: 55 v Birkenhead: 5
                            Tapakuna GS: 31 v Rangitoto: 7
                            Massey HS: 23 v Rosmini College: 23

                            Tranzit
                            Hastings BHS: 22 v Scots College: 12
                            Palmerston North BHS: 42 v St Pats Town: 8
                            Napier BHS: 34 v Wellington College: 3

                            Auckland
                            St Kent's: 20 v De La Salle College: 8
                            Kelston BHS: 34 v Liston College: 9
                            Aorere College: 0 v Sacred Heart College: 39
                            King's: 19 v MAGS: 6
                            St Peter's College: 22 v Dilworth: 11
                            Auckland GS: 38 v One Tree Hill: 3

                            UC Championship
                            Lincoln Combined: 26 v Roncalli Combined: 13
                            Chirst's College: 87 v Ashburton: 0
                            Waimea College: 29 v St Andrew's College: 32
                            St Bede's College: 27 v Nelson College: 19
                            Timaru BHS: 32 v Rangiora HS: 19
                            Christchurch BHS: 59 v St Thomas CC: 26

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                              #81

                              the Westlake vs WBHS was WBHS 3rd in 8 days, and only were trailing 22-12 about 10 into the 2nd spell....still not a fan of them playing in this comp, they don't have all the best players making themselves available for the team as the travel factor is an issue.

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                                Would Northland have enough schools to have their own comp and provide competitive games?

                                The NH comp isn't very strong so having a combined school comp north of the bridge makes sense. I know in the Chiefs region some schools meet at a venue midway between the school locations to minimise travel.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  Would Northland have enough schools to have their own comp and provide competitive games?

                                  The NH comp isn't very strong so having a combined school comp north of the bridge makes sense. I know in the Chiefs region some schools meet at a venue midway between the school locations to minimise travel.

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                                  @bovidae TBH I am not sure...I know traditionally it was a strong comp, but I guess that included Kaitaia, BOI, Dargaville (with Kaitaia slightly worse travel times to games) which still means some travel.

                                  That said, I know in school boy stuff, Northland schools have always struggled v Auckland ones.

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                                    A few results:

                                    Central North Island (last Saturday, 19 May):
                                    Te Aute Coll 1st XV 6 - 60 Lindisfarne Coll 1st XV
                                    Te Aute Coll 1st XV 17 - 65 Lindisfarne Coll 1st XV

                                    Annual sports exchange (played Wed, 23 May):
                                    St John's (Hastings) 1st XV (7) v (52) St Pat's Town (Wellington) 1st XV
                                    St John's (Hastings) 2st XV (7) v (56) St Pat's Town (Wellington) 2ndXV
                                    St Patrick’s College, Silverstream 1st XV (22) v (10) New Plymouth BHS 1st XV

                                    Also played today:
                                    Otago BHS 1st XV (14) v (14) Southland BHS 1st XV

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                                      Tauranga Boys College beat Francis Douglas College 24-15 in the other University of Waikato 2018 Chiefs Cup Secondary Schools Competition game. The top two teams Rotorua BHS and Wesley College will play the final in the curtainraiser to the Chiefs-NSW game.

                                      Full results at http://www.chiefs.co.nz/news/news/uow

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @bovidae TBH I am not sure...I know traditionally it was a strong comp, but I guess that included Kaitaia, BOI, Dargaville (with Kaitaia slightly worse travel times to games) which still means some travel.

                                        That said, I know in school boy stuff, Northland schools have always struggled v Auckland ones.

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                                        @taniwharugby said in 2018 School Rugby:

                                        @bovidae TBH I am not sure...I know traditionally it was a strong comp, but I guess that included Kaitaia, BOI, Dargaville (with Kaitaia slightly worse travel times to games) which still means some travel.

                                        That said, I know in school boy stuff, Northland schools have always struggled v Auckland ones.

                                        They use to have the winner of the northland schools comp play winner of north harbour one before then winner of that went on to play the Auckland ones. I recall one year Westlake beat Whangarei by about 50 points and then a week later westlake went down by about the same margin vs the top Auckland team. It showed a real difference between the 3 comps

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                                          Quite surprised at how well Takapuna Grammer are going so far this year in the harbour comp. Its out local school and they aren't really known for their rugby. 4/4 (including a win over Rosmini) and only unbeaten side along with Westlake (my old school). Will def try and catch the game between them in the next few weeks.

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