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Blues 2019

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    Devils advocate. Richmond in the AFL were a basket case. Talented, but either missed finals, or lost the first final every year. Then they had a shocker year, and finished 13th.

    Every single metric said the coach should get fired. But the Board went another way, kept the coach, and replaced all the assistants. They then won the comp, and will probably win again this year. To be clear, there was no indication Hardwick had this in him.

    This year Collingwood and Nathan Buckley are looking like proving that keeping the coach can work.

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    • MokeyM Mokey

      @kirwan Must be fucking hard for Blues fans to swallow when he keeps doing these interviews where he is laughing and joking. Nothing about the team's current predicament is funny. And Redman is just a giant floundering douchebag.

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      @mokey maybe it's a case of laughing over crying! I suspect he might do a bit of the latter in his own time. Or at least a fair amount on face palming!

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        Devils advocate. Richmond in the AFL were a basket case. Talented, but either missed finals, or lost the first final every year. Then they had a shocker year, and finished 13th.

        Every single metric said the coach should get fired. But the Board went another way, kept the coach, and replaced all the assistants. They then won the comp, and will probably win again this year. To be clear, there was no indication Hardwick had this in him.

        This year Collingwood and Nathan Buckley are looking like proving that keeping the coach can work.

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        @mariner4life that sounds like Pat Lam's situation in 2012. Not Tana's situation in 2018.

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        • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

          @mokey maybe it's a case of laughing over crying! I suspect he might do a bit of the latter in his own time. Or at least a fair amount on face palming!

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          @paekakboyz I suspect Blues fans would rather see him crying as if it meant something, rather than him bouncing around and giggling like this is no more than a well-paid pisstake.

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          • MokeyM Mokey

            @paekakboyz I suspect Blues fans would rather see him crying as if it meant something, rather than him bouncing around and giggling like this is no more than a well-paid pisstake.

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            @mokey said in Blues 2019:

            @paekakboyz I suspect Blues fans would rather see him crying as if it meant something, rather than him bouncing around and giggling like this is no more than a well-paid pisstake.

            I'm just voting with my feet. I drag myself down to EP occasionally, but it feels like an abusive relationship. Fark getting a season ticket though ... FOMO on the upswing is the only worry I have

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              Excellent!

              http://theblues.co.nz/tom-coventry-to-join-blues-super-rugby-coaching-team/

              We can confirm today that current North Harbour coach Tom Coventry is to joining the Blues next season as an assistant coach.
              
              Coventry will join our coaching group alongside Tana Umaga and  Ta$man coach Leon Macdonald, who were named in May.
              
              The former Waikato player and Chiefs assistant coach is vastly experienced and successful with two Super Rugby titles at the Chiefs and he guided North Harbour to the semi-final of the Mitre-10 Cup last season.
              
              In his two years at North Harbour he has had a close involvement at the Blues, guiding the Development team.
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                I had to laugh - a couple of weeks ago on the Out of The Box podcast Nigel Yalden said he was happy Akira was staying with the Blues cos he gets to work under Steve Jackson who Yalden praised as a coach.

                I usually like Yalden but to me it just reeked of NZ rugby media refusing to be critical. Jackson was poor in his two seasons as Blues coach and rightly replaced.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  I had to laugh - a couple of weeks ago on the Out of The Box podcast Nigel Yalden said he was happy Akira was staying with the Blues cos he gets to work under Steve Jackson who Yalden praised as a coach.

                  I usually like Yalden but to me it just reeked of NZ rugby media refusing to be critical. Jackson was poor in his two seasons as Blues coach and rightly replaced.

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                  @kiwimurph so Jackson didn't reapply, assume he knew he was done despite Tana keeping his job as head coach.

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                    @kiwimurph so Jackson didn't reapply, assume he knew he was done despite Tana keeping his job as head coach.

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                    @taniwharugby Yeah I got the sense Jackson was in trouble way back at the press conference for Leon MacDonald when they made it quite clear they were re-evaluating the rest of the coaching group (aside from Leon and Tana).

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                    • A African Monkey

                      @stargazer Yeah I get that, I'm half Samoan and have played in a lot of teams where we said a prayer before and after games. I'm not at all religious but I went along with it and let them do their thing, no big deal at all, can't see why others can't do the same it really shouldn't be an issue.

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                      @african-monkey said in Blues 2019:

                      can't see why others can't do the same

                      Probably for the same reason I wonder why people can't keep their superstitious shit to themselves.

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                        For which franchise Adrian Smith (NH) is currently contracted ? He could be an answer for the Blues for the Nr.2 jersey. I know he is a journeyman but he is sound and strong, the type of forwards who do their core jobs correctly without being flashy. That is what the Blues need.

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                          For which franchise Adrian Smith (NH) is currently contracted ? He could be an answer for the Blues for the Nr.2 jersey. I know he is a journeyman but he is sound and strong, the type of forwards who do their core jobs correctly without being flashy. That is what the Blues need.

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                            For which franchise Adrian Smith (NH) is currently contracted ? He could be an answer for the Blues for the Nr.2 jersey. I know he is a journeyman but he is sound and strong, the type of forwards who do their core jobs correctly without being flashy. That is what the Blues need.

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                            @cgrant No thanks. Journeymen got them into this hole.

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                              For which franchise Adrian Smith (NH) is currently contracted ? He could be an answer for the Blues for the Nr.2 jersey. I know he is a journeyman but he is sound and strong, the type of forwards who do their core jobs correctly without being flashy. That is what the Blues need.

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                              @cgrant He's is a good player, though not as good as Parsons, but he has signed for an NH club.

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                                @cgrant He's is a good player, though not as good as Parsons, but he has signed for an NH club.

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                                @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                @cgrant He's is a good player, though not as good as Parsons, but he has signed for an NH club.

                                No need to be insulting...

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  Devils advocate. Richmond in the AFL were a basket case. Talented, but either missed finals, or lost the first final every year. Then they had a shocker year, and finished 13th.

                                  Every single metric said the coach should get fired. But the Board went another way, kept the coach, and replaced all the assistants. They then won the comp, and will probably win again this year. To be clear, there was no indication Hardwick had this in him.

                                  This year Collingwood and Nathan Buckley are looking like proving that keeping the coach can work.

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                                  @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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                                  • number9N number9

                                    @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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                                    @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                    @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                    Outstanding is going overboard .. they've been on the end of some towellings and if Luke doesn't play, or doesn't fire, then they're in big trouble.

                                    They have, however, definitely shown some improvement.

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                                    • number9N number9

                                      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

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                                      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                      It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                      Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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                                      • SammyCS SammyC

                                        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

                                        @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

                                        It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

                                        Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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                                        @sammyc You must be joking? Kearney did not sack his assistants, the Board did. The Warriors in 7th Place is fantastic considering where they were previously placed. Mate, have you ever competed in anything? That is a ridiculous statement.

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                                          @number9 the blues board need to sack themselves, but we know that wont happen, too much self interest.

                                          So you think 3 years of failure, and finishing in the worst position in year 3 is enough to retain ones position?

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