Skip to content
  • Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

  • Tipping
  • Team Sheets
  • Highlights
  • Results
    • All Blacks

      Search every All Blacks Test. Filter results by year, opposition, location, venue, city and RWC stage

    • Super Rugby

      Search every Super Rugby since match 1996

    • NPC

      Search NPC results. Only first division matches from 1976-2005. All results from the 14 team competition (2006-present) are included

All Blacks Squad for France

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
allblacks
727 Posts 75 Posters 75.9k Views 3 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • NepiaN Nepia

    @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @roninwc If Proctor is only the 90kgs he's billed as on the Hurricanes website, then his size is against him as a test midfielder.

    He might have been 90kg when he came out of school, but I doubt he'd be that light now - rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes.

    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    wrote on last edited by
    #144

    @nepia I know - but, he should complain to the Hurricanes website manager.

    Imagine if Hansen is in the selection meeting and he googles Proctor... πŸ™‚

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • NepiaN Nepia

      @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @roninwc If Proctor is only the 90kgs he's billed as on the Hurricanes website, then his size is against him as a test midfielder.

      He might have been 90kg when he came out of school, but I doubt he'd be that light now - rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes.

      DuluthD Offline
      DuluthD Offline
      Duluth
      wrote on last edited by Duluth
      #145

      @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes

      As are players heights

      Which reminds me, I looked up Taufua's height recently and he was listed as being taller than I thought he would be.

      Then I did a quick check of the archive versions of the crusaders website

      2013 - 1.82m (21yrs)
      2014 - 1.82m (22yrs)
      2015 - 1.82m (23yrs)
      2016 - 1.85m (24yrs)
      2017 - 1.87m (25yrs)
      2018 - 1.87m (26yrs)

      It's not particularly important, but its worth noting how bullshit these stats can be

      Chris B.C NepiaN 2 Replies Last reply
      10
      • DuluthD Duluth

        @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes

        As are players heights

        Which reminds me, I looked up Taufua's height recently and he was listed as being taller than I thought he would be.

        Then I did a quick check of the archive versions of the crusaders website

        2013 - 1.82m (21yrs)
        2014 - 1.82m (22yrs)
        2015 - 1.82m (23yrs)
        2016 - 1.85m (24yrs)
        2017 - 1.87m (25yrs)
        2018 - 1.87m (26yrs)

        It's not particularly important, but its worth noting how bullshit these stats can be

        Chris B.C Offline
        Chris B.C Offline
        Chris B.
        wrote on last edited by
        #146

        @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

        mariner4lifeM 1 Reply Last reply
        1
        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

          mariner4lifeM Offline
          mariner4lifeM Offline
          mariner4life
          wrote on last edited by
          #147

          @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

          different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

          MN5M taniwharugbyT 2 Replies Last reply
          3
          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

            different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

            MN5M Online
            MN5M Online
            MN5
            wrote on last edited by
            #148

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

            different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

            I still reckon Daniel Braid was the king of bullshit height stats.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • No QuarterN Online
              No QuarterN Online
              No Quarter
              wrote on last edited by
              #149

              @Duluth holy shit if he keeps growing at that rate he'll catch up to Ardie.

              1 Reply Last reply
              2
              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                @duluth The phone book he stands on has got thicker!

                different haircuts. If he wants to be a test player he needs to get it stand up on end like a certain openside

                taniwharugbyT Offline
                taniwharugbyT Offline
                taniwharugby
                wrote on last edited by
                #150

                wasn't Ofisa Tonu'u one who always had his weight listed about 20kgs under what he actually weighed?

                Back then a 100kg halfback wasn't really the norm.

                MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • chimoausC Offline
                  chimoausC Offline
                  chimoaus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #151

                  I was surprised to see Ardie was 1.9m? on the weekend. No idea if his height has crept up as well.

                  MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    wasn't Ofisa Tonu'u one who always had his weight listed about 20kgs under what he actually weighed?

                    Back then a 100kg halfback wasn't really the norm.

                    MN5M Online
                    MN5M Online
                    MN5
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #152

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    wasn't Ofisa Tonu'u one who always had his weight listed about 20kgs under what he actually weighed?

                    Back then a 100kg halfback wasn't really the norm.

                    No matter how fat he got Piri Weepu never got over 94 kg either.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    5
                    • chimoausC chimoaus

                      I was surprised to see Ardie was 1.9m? on the weekend. No idea if his height has crept up as well.

                      MN5M Online
                      MN5M Online
                      MN5
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #153

                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      I was surprised to see Ardie was 1.9m? on the weekend. No idea if his height has crept up as well.

                      You're obviously new here

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      4
                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        rugby player's weights are so suss sometimes

                        As are players heights

                        Which reminds me, I looked up Taufua's height recently and he was listed as being taller than I thought he would be.

                        Then I did a quick check of the archive versions of the crusaders website

                        2013 - 1.82m (21yrs)
                        2014 - 1.82m (22yrs)
                        2015 - 1.82m (23yrs)
                        2016 - 1.85m (24yrs)
                        2017 - 1.87m (25yrs)
                        2018 - 1.87m (26yrs)

                        It's not particularly important, but its worth noting how bullshit these stats can be

                        NepiaN Offline
                        NepiaN Offline
                        Nepia
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #154

                        @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                        nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                        4
                        • 9 Offline
                          9 Offline
                          98blueandgold
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #155

                          ALB for me is a so-so Super player and a better test player. He is a good support player and keeps the ball alive better than any other 13. When he is paired with either SBW or Crotty he has looked very good for ABs. In saying that i still think SBW and Crotty is best mix but if either goes down ALB at 13 and either t 12 works. Also remember ALB is only turning 23 this year. conrad Smith didn't even play ABS until he was 24!

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • P Offline
                            P Offline
                            ploughboy
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #156

                            i think alb been handicapped by who he has been partnered with at the chiefs

                            CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                              nzzpN Offline
                              nzzpN Offline
                              nzzp
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #157

                              @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                              @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                              I did, but it wasn't up

                              NepiaN 1 Reply Last reply
                              1
                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                I did, but it wasn't up

                                NepiaN Offline
                                NepiaN Offline
                                Nepia
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #158

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                I did, but it wasn't up

                                Only 5cm!

                                nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                  I did, but it wasn't up

                                  Only 5cm!

                                  nzzpN Offline
                                  nzzpN Offline
                                  nzzp
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #159

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                  I did, but it wasn't up

                                  Only 5cm!

                                  It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                  P 1 Reply Last reply
                                  1
                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                    I did, but it wasn't up

                                    Only 5cm!

                                    It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                    P Offline
                                    P Offline
                                    pakman
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #160

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                    I did, but it wasn't up

                                    Only 5cm!

                                    It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                    Thought you were going to say every morning! πŸ€“

                                    nzzpN 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • P pakman

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                      I did, but it wasn't up

                                      Only 5cm!

                                      It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                      Thought you were going to say every morning! πŸ€“

                                      nzzpN Offline
                                      nzzpN Offline
                                      nzzp
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #161

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                      I did, but it wasn't up

                                      Only 5cm!

                                      It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                      Thought you were going to say every morning! πŸ€“

                                      If it hasn't grown by the time you're in you're twenties, you may be one of those people who click on that spam mail you get sent...

                                      MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
                                      3
                                      • RoninWCR RoninWC

                                        @shadowtrooper said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        @cgrant I concur - mostly. It seems both Crotty and SBW spend a fair amount of time out injured these days and will need to be managed carefully prior to the TRC and through the SR finals. I think we will see Goodhue and Laumape spend time in the centres, Laumape is developing into a Nonu-esque type of player, and Goodhue I can see will eventually succeed Crotty. t's a pity Aso is out injured and Procter seemingly not in the mix, as I think that would have added extra extra spice to the competiton for places.

                                        Have to say I'm quite frustrated with the midfield at the moment.

                                        SBW is a lock when healthy but doesn't have the speed or agility he once had. Crotty is a better 12 than 13 certainly.

                                        The NZ SR form 13's seem to barely get a mention - Proctor and Rob Thompson. IMHO, both are playing better than ALB and the "great white hope" Goodhue and both offer more around the park.

                                        ALB is having a better year than last year but not as good as Proctor and Thompson. Again, IMHO, both Proctor and Thompson are better defenders and offer more in attack.

                                        In terms of combinations, I think we could do a lot worse than starting Laumape and Proctor and have SBW on the bench for impact given his match fitness will be much lower than all the others in the running.

                                        Personally, I think it's a little early for Goodhue, who is a terrific prospect, but I prefer the maturity of both Proctor and Thompson.

                                        My $0.02 worth anyway.

                                        P Offline
                                        P Offline
                                        pakman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #162

                                        @roninwc said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        @shadowtrooper said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        @cgrant I concur - mostly. It seems both Crotty and SBW spend a fair amount of time out injured these days and will need to be managed carefully prior to the TRC and through the SR finals. I think we will see Goodhue and Laumape spend time in the centres, Laumape is developing into a Nonu-esque type of player, and Goodhue I can see will eventually succeed Crotty. t's a pity Aso is out injured and Procter seemingly not in the mix, as I think that would have added extra extra spice to the competiton for places.

                                        Have to say I'm quite frustrated with the midfield at the moment.

                                        SBW is a lock when healthy but doesn't have the speed or agility he once had. Crotty is a better 12 than 13 certainly.

                                        The NZ SR form 13's seem to barely get a mention - Proctor and Rob Thompson. IMHO, both are playing better than ALB and the "great white hope" Goodhue and both offer more around the park.

                                        ALB is having a better year than last year but not as good as Proctor and Thompson. Again, IMHO, both Proctor and Thompson are better defenders and offer more in attack.

                                        In terms of combinations, I think we could do a lot worse than starting Laumape and Proctor and have SBW on the bench for impact given his match fitness will be much lower than all the others in the running.

                                        Personally, I think it's a little early for Goodhue, who is a terrific prospect, but I prefer the maturity of both Proctor and Thompson.

                                        My $0.02 worth anyway.

                                        Only seen a little of Thompson, but I was impressed.

                                        Key for me in this selection is that French and TRC are the very last chance to blood anyone before locking in combos for the RWC. Loosehead is probably one such area.

                                        Also, anyone who is in 30s and on way down has to be questionable for RWC. Which would argue against cajoling Crockett and Kaino back for one last time where the usual selections are injured.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                          I did, but it wasn't up

                                          Only 5cm!

                                          It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                          Thought you were going to say every morning! πŸ€“

                                          If it hasn't grown by the time you're in you're twenties, you may be one of those people who click on that spam mail you get sent...

                                          MN5M Online
                                          MN5M Online
                                          MN5
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #163

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @duluth I wish I grew 5cm in my 20s.

                                          I did, but it wasn't up

                                          Only 5cm!

                                          It started at 5 ... and then I needed a new belt πŸ˜›

                                          Thought you were going to say every morning! πŸ€“

                                          If it hasn't grown by the time you're in you're twenties, you may be one of those people who click on that spam mail you get sent...

                                          I was just waiting for this to descend into dick jokes

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Search
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Search