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All Blacks Squad for France

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  • M Machpants

    Akira is not in because he still doesn't graft - he's got the most upsides of any in the squad IMO but needs to calm down (another tussle last night) and needs to put the graft in. The ABs will be able to bring that out in him, I reckon

    So overall odd squad balance 2 hookers, 5 props (normally 3 6) 3 locks normally 4, but 7 loose forwards (normally 5, tho 1 covers lock), 5 instead of 4 midfielders.

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    @machpants haha just wait...

    expect the extra mid-fielder named with Crotty expected to get injured.

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      Shit squad. Selectors have lost it.

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        Whether people like Akira or not, it's a bit of a kick in the guts to see Shannon Frizell named ahead of him I really feel for him atm as he's been a lone hand for the Blues this season. He might have to change teams to get a look in. Not huge on Taufua but well done to him. He's hung around and finally gets a go. Prefer Todd over Savea personally but I'm sure he'll be back.

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          Hansen also said that the 2 extra players (Ioane and Coltman) won't be picked unless there is an injury.

          TTT will be happy he moved to the Chiefs as you don't get many minutes behind TJP at the Canes.

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            @machpants haha just wait...

            expect the extra mid-fielder named with Crotty expected to get injured.

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @machpants haha just wait...

            expect the extra mid-fielder named with Crotty expected to get injured.

            Yeah concussed last night, so who knows

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Shit squad. Selectors have lost it.

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              @mariner4life What's your's?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @pukunui yeah the Savea over Todd and Frizell over Akira are 2 very big ones IMO

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                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                @pukunui yeah the Savea over one is a head scratcher.

                More upside in getting Savea going than Todd in the long term and more impact off the bench in the short term.

                It's a squad very much picked with the World Cup in the back of their mind, they are clearly hoping to solve the loose forward and various bench spot questions.

                Todd is always going to be ready to go as a break glass in case of injury guy.

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                  Well I'm wondering if the RWC squad was picked today if that is the squad they'd go with.

                  The loosies are an interesting mix.

                  A bit of experiment and testing IMO.

                  Frizzell is a selection I like. We need another big boofer and he has potential. Think they are testing the water with him but keeping Akira close. Reckon that would be swapped if they were picking there absolute number 1 squad.

                  Similarly Savea and Todd. I think Savea gets the nod for linger term potential and now is the time to develop that.

                  Taufua ... yeah well I can see an argument for him ... but not my favourite selection. Whitelock L and Ioane A would be my preferences.

                  The rest? Fairly stock standard. Shame Lam misses out.

                  Who will replace Crotty?

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @pukunui yeah the Savea over one is a head scratcher.

                    More upside in getting Savea going than Todd in the long term and more impact off the bench in the short term.

                    It's a squad very much picked with the World Cup in the back of their mind, they are clearly hoping to solve the loose forward and various bench spot questions.

                    Todd is always going to be ready to go as a break glass in case of injury guy.

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                    @rotated said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @pukunui yeah the Savea over one is a head scratcher.

                    More upside in getting Savea going than Todd in the long term and more impact off the bench in the short term.

                    Exactly

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                      @rotated said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @pukunui yeah the Savea over one is a head scratcher.

                      More upside in getting Savea going than Todd in the long term and more impact off the bench in the short term.

                      Exactly

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                      @booboo I disagree, but thats just me, as above, I expect Hansen and the gang have access to alot more info on them that us, so have to trust they are basing it on the Thorne work he does 🙂

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                        No need for a replacement for Crotty. They picked all 5 potential AB midfielders.

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                          Might well need another tighthead prop.

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                            Not that surprised with the Savea over Todd selection. Todd’s been in better form and I prefer his type of game in a direct comparison with Ardie’s, but we’ve seen this before that Todd will only come in if Cane is injured/unavailable. I think they see a point of difference with Ardie with his ability to cover 8, he’s a better fit for the squad.

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                              Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

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                                Yeah for sure, unlike Moody, Franks has form

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/66597276/crusaders-prop-owen-franks-suspended-for-two-weeks-for-hit-against-highlanders

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                                  haha, the 9 year old boy next door came over to ask TR Jnr to go out riding thier bikes, but first thing he said, did you see them choosing the ABs on Sky? They didnt pick Akira!

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                                    Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

                                    How did Fox confirm that? Normally EOYT squads are larger, they're playing quite a few games

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                                      Harris' partner is expecting so Coltman is his replacement if he isn't available.

                                      What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

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                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

                                      Pretty standard these days to have guys picked for the ABs who don’t regularly start for their franchise.

                                      Crockett
                                      Squire (when first picked)
                                      Romano
                                      Aumua
                                      Perry
                                      Coltman

                                      I’m sure there’s another one or two that I can’t think of right now

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        Yeah for sure, unlike Moody, Franks has form

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/66597276/crusaders-prop-owen-franks-suspended-for-two-weeks-for-hit-against-highlanders

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                                        @machpants the whole they were scheduled to play those other games is a loophole.

                                        Any coach with any sense should always schedule his players in those matches for this very scenario, even if it is taking the piss.

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          Well I'm wondering if the RWC squad was picked today if that is the squad they'd go with.

                                          The loosies are an interesting mix.

                                          A bit of experiment and testing IMO.

                                          Frizzell is a selection I like. We need another big boofer and he has potential. Think they are testing the water with him but keeping Akira close. Reckon that would be swapped if they were picking there absolute number 1 squad.

                                          Similarly Savea and Todd. I think Savea gets the nod for linger term potential and now is the time to develop that.

                                          Taufua ... yeah well I can see an argument for him ... but not my favourite selection. Whitelock L and Ioane A would be my preferences.

                                          The rest? Fairly stock standard. Shame Lam misses out.

                                          Who will replace Crotty?

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          Well I'm wondering if the RWC squad was picked today if that is the squad they'd go with.

                                          Aside from trimming a midfielder and 6/8 to get to 31, they probably drop on outside back to get the third hooker and achieve the 17/14 split from last time.

                                          Taufua, Goodhue and NMS out?

                                          Crockett would be called out of retirement if RWC was imminent too.

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