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All Blacks Squad for France

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    Not that surprised with the Savea over Todd selection. Todd’s been in better form and I prefer his type of game in a direct comparison with Ardie’s, but we’ve seen this before that Todd will only come in if Cane is injured/unavailable. I think they see a point of difference with Ardie with his ability to cover 8, he’s a better fit for the squad.

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      Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

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        Yeah for sure, unlike Moody, Franks has form

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/66597276/crusaders-prop-owen-franks-suspended-for-two-weeks-for-hit-against-highlanders

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          haha, the 9 year old boy next door came over to ask TR Jnr to go out riding thier bikes, but first thing he said, did you see them choosing the ABs on Sky? They didnt pick Akira!

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

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            @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

            How did Fox confirm that? Normally EOYT squads are larger, they're playing quite a few games

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Harris' partner is expecting so Coltman is his replacement if he isn't available.

              What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

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              @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

              Pretty standard these days to have guys picked for the ABs who don’t regularly start for their franchise.

              Crockett
              Squire (when first picked)
              Romano
              Aumua
              Perry
              Coltman

              I’m sure there’s another one or two that I can’t think of right now

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                Yeah for sure, unlike Moody, Franks has form

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/66597276/crusaders-prop-owen-franks-suspended-for-two-weeks-for-hit-against-highlanders

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                @machpants the whole they were scheduled to play those other games is a loophole.

                Any coach with any sense should always schedule his players in those matches for this very scenario, even if it is taking the piss.

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                  Well I'm wondering if the RWC squad was picked today if that is the squad they'd go with.

                  The loosies are an interesting mix.

                  A bit of experiment and testing IMO.

                  Frizzell is a selection I like. We need another big boofer and he has potential. Think they are testing the water with him but keeping Akira close. Reckon that would be swapped if they were picking there absolute number 1 squad.

                  Similarly Savea and Todd. I think Savea gets the nod for linger term potential and now is the time to develop that.

                  Taufua ... yeah well I can see an argument for him ... but not my favourite selection. Whitelock L and Ioane A would be my preferences.

                  The rest? Fairly stock standard. Shame Lam misses out.

                  Who will replace Crotty?

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                  @booboo said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  Well I'm wondering if the RWC squad was picked today if that is the squad they'd go with.

                  Aside from trimming a midfielder and 6/8 to get to 31, they probably drop on outside back to get the third hooker and achieve the 17/14 split from last time.

                  Taufua, Goodhue and NMS out?

                  Crockett would be called out of retirement if RWC was imminent too.

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                  • M Machpants

                    @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    Fox just confirmed that 32 players will be picked for the RC and EOYT as preparation for RWC 2019. So with some injured players to come back a few of this squad won't be involved later in the year.

                    How did Fox confirm that? Normally EOYT squads are larger, they're playing quite a few games

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                    @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    How did Fox confirm that? Normally EOYT squads are larger, they're playing quite a few games

                    He said they will deliberately take less players than normal to use the tour as a dry run for Japan.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Shit squad. Selectors have lost it.

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                      @mariner4life Weak loose forwards. Cane the only top quality player.

                      Good thing we're only playing France, and the SANZA teams are so weak.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        How did Fox confirm that? Normally EOYT squads are larger, they're playing quite a few games

                        He said they will deliberately take less players than normal to use the tour as a dry run for Japan.

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                        @bovidae Thanks, I missed that. Gutsy move with Ireland and England at the end there. I suppose they can fly in cavalry if required for the last game vs Italy! My not-so-bold prediction, Abs will win that but it'll be a flush down the dunny performance.

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                        • GunnerG Gunner

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

                          Pretty standard these days to have guys picked for the ABs who don’t regularly start for their franchise.

                          Crockett
                          Squire (when first picked)
                          Romano
                          Aumua
                          Perry
                          Coltman

                          I’m sure there’s another one or two that I can’t think of right now

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                          @gunner said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          What I find interesting is that a player like Frizzell won't even be in the Highlanders starting XV when Squire is back.

                          Pretty standard these days to have guys picked for the ABs who don’t regularly start for their franchise.
                          ...
                          I’m sure there’s another one or two that I can’t think of right now

                          Brendan Leonard. Colin Slade and to a lesser extent Israel Dagg at times.

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                            Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

                            Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

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                              Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

                              Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

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                              @nepia People from Ta$man are better people and better people make better All Blacks. 🙂

                              Yeah - it's a strange one. Maybe they're going to give him a cap to lock him in as an AB?

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                                Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

                                Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

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                                @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

                                Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

                                Im trying to work out what graft work Fifita and Savea do that Akira doesn't as well.
                                I could understand if all the guys infront of him were veterans and he just needed to wait for his chance but they are parachuting guys with less runs on the board in ahead of him.

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                                  My only surprise is Frizell over Akira, but overall it's a pretty good squad, considering the injuries.
                                  Would have preferred Todd over Ardie, but I think it will be like last year and Todd will make either the RC or EOYT squad.

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                                    @nepia said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    Shannon Frizell - WTF! Seriously, even setting aside the fact he's a poach, he's the worst selection in the ABs for a long time.

                                    Basically Akira has to move to a South Island team and do some of the mythical graft that @Machpants claims he doesn't do, despite the fact he's week in week out one of the hardest workers going un a bumbling Blues team. What graft has Frizell done in his 34 minutes per game he plays?

                                    Im trying to work out what graft work Fifita and Savea do that Akira doesn't as well.
                                    I could understand if all the guys infront of him were veterans and he just needed to wait for his chance but they are parachuting guys with less runs on the board in ahead of him.

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                                    @pukunui And unless Akira changes teams it'll probably continue. I seriously don't get it.

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                                      As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen...in saying that I would have chosen him over Frizell 🙂 this french test series is to see if some are up to it. Tafua its make or break, as with Frizell. I can see why Ardie has been picked as well. With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team. I wld suggest if Read is back playing 80min Ardie might need to play well to keep out Todd as an openside specialist.

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        @pukunui And unless Akira changes teams it'll probably continue. I seriously don't get it.

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                                        @african-monkey Hansen is in his dotage. Expect him to be out-coached by Schmidt again this year.

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                                        • 9 98blueandgold

                                          As Selectors pointed out its work rate and energy levels for Akira. ABs need the forwards to work, clean out rucks, link etc so backs can finish which is probably why Akira not chosen...in saying that I would have chosen him over Frizell 🙂 this french test series is to see if some are up to it. Tafua its make or break, as with Frizell. I can see why Ardie has been picked as well. With Tafua and Whitelock they are starters only, Ardie can play 8 of the bench which is very important for makeup of team. I wld suggest if Read is back playing 80min Ardie might need to play well to keep out Todd as an openside specialist.

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                                          @98blueandgold if its energy levels, maybe they need to give him more Gatorade?

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