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  • TimT Tim

    If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

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    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

    I hope they take that on as a 'Learnings'

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      But it is mostly sound bites, 'not revolution' says Beaudy, so really is it any different from any other year? Can't stand still and they have to deal with rush defence - I hope it is tho, but I can't see it being anything more than an evolution of last years ' play so bloody fast no on else can keep up, meaning we score way more tries than we let in' plan.
      I hope the plan includes do not give away so many stupid cards, we had 8/1 vs Eng 1/0, Boks 1/1, and Ireland 3/0 - dangerous stuff

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      @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @nzzp I will say that it's a good thing they looked beyond Kaino at the EoYT, so that's a head start. The problem is replacing Read who is a shadow of his PoTY version. I'll be astonished if following back surgery he attains those heights again.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        @nzzp I will say that it's a good thing they looked beyond Kaino at the EoYT, so that's a head start. The problem is replacing Read who is a shadow of his PoTY version. I'll be astonished if following back surgery he attains those heights again.

        Yep, probably why they have been keeping him under wraps for so long...

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        • TimT Tim

          If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

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          @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

          It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

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            @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

            It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

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            @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

            It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

            That requires a pact.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

              I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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              • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

                I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

                At the end of Lions 3, I'm still steaming about TJP flapping his arms aroudn when we had an attacking scrum, and letting Conor thieve the ball.

                Do your core job first, worry about the ref second. Modern rugby sucks for this, there are more seagulls than our local dump.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

                  Maybe. Or a ruthless media strategy designed to make Eddie's brain implode under the strain of uncertainty.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

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                    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                    Yellows/Reds last year

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                      @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                      Yellows/Reds last year

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                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                      Yellows/Reds last year

                      Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                        @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        All Blacks coach Steve Hansen indicated Taufua could play all three loose forward positions.

                        I'd missed that. With the limitations on squad numbers the selectors love utilities.

                        Have a hunch they're hoping Fifita does enough to convince them that he can cover lock at RWC. Which would make third lock a dogfight between Barrett (S), Patty T and Romero.

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                          @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                          Yellows/Reds last year

                          Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                          @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                          Yellows/Reds last year

                          Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                          I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                          NZ got 8/1
                          Eng got 1/0
                          Boks got 1/1
                          Ireland got 3/0
                          ...?
                          (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                          • KruseK Kruse

                            @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                            Yellows/Reds last year

                            Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                            I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                            NZ got 8/1
                            Eng got 1/0
                            Boks got 1/1
                            Ireland got 3/0
                            ...?
                            (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                            @kruse Ahhh, cheers! I geddit.

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                              Yeah makes perfect sense when you know the answer! Sorry for not being clearer

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                                From this article:
                                Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                  From this article:
                                  Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                  New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                  England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                  @machpants shows the clear bias by referees towards nations with teams in the NH hemisphere competitions.

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                                    Apart from the Boks?

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      From this article:
                                      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                      England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      From this article:
                                      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                      Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                                        From this article:
                                        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                        England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                        @machpants is it odd that NO Northern Hemisphere 6Nations team got any red cards in 2017? are they really that well behaved or do they not know how to tackle so hard that the referee calls it illegal and dishes out a red card 🍭

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          Apart from the Boks?

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                                          @machpants think you'll find they have teams in NH competition 😉

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