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All Blacks Squad for France

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @nzzp I will say that it's a good thing they looked beyond Kaino at the EoYT, so that's a head start. The problem is replacing Read who is a shadow of his PoTY version. I'll be astonished if following back surgery he attains those heights again.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @nzzp I will say that it's a good thing they looked beyond Kaino at the EoYT, so that's a head start. The problem is replacing Read who is a shadow of his PoTY version. I'll be astonished if following back surgery he attains those heights again.

    Yep, probably why they have been keeping him under wraps for so long...

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    • TimT Tim

      If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

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      @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

      It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

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        @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

        It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

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        @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

        It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

        That requires a pact.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

          I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

            I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

            At the end of Lions 3, I'm still steaming about TJP flapping his arms aroudn when we had an attacking scrum, and letting Conor thieve the ball.

            Do your core job first, worry about the ref second. Modern rugby sucks for this, there are more seagulls than our local dump.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

              Maybe. Or a ruthless media strategy designed to make Eddie's brain implode under the strain of uncertainty.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

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                @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                Yellows/Reds last year

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                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                  Yellows/Reds last year

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                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                  Yellows/Reds last year

                  Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                    @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    All Blacks coach Steve Hansen indicated Taufua could play all three loose forward positions.

                    I'd missed that. With the limitations on squad numbers the selectors love utilities.

                    Have a hunch they're hoping Fifita does enough to convince them that he can cover lock at RWC. Which would make third lock a dogfight between Barrett (S), Patty T and Romero.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                      Yellows/Reds last year

                      Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                      @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                      Yellows/Reds last year

                      Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                      I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                      NZ got 8/1
                      Eng got 1/0
                      Boks got 1/1
                      Ireland got 3/0
                      ...?
                      (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                      • KruseK Kruse

                        @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                        Yellows/Reds last year

                        Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                        I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                        NZ got 8/1
                        Eng got 1/0
                        Boks got 1/1
                        Ireland got 3/0
                        ...?
                        (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                        @kruse Ahhh, cheers! I geddit.

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                          Yeah makes perfect sense when you know the answer! Sorry for not being clearer

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                            From this article:
                            Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                            New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                            Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                            Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                            France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                            Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                            Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                            Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                            Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                            South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                            England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                            • M Machpants

                              From this article:
                              Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                              New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                              England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                              @machpants shows the clear bias by referees towards nations with teams in the NH hemisphere competitions.

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                                Apart from the Boks?

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                                • M Machpants

                                  From this article:
                                  Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                  New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                  France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                  South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                  England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  From this article:
                                  Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                  New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                  Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    From this article:
                                    Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                    New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                    Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                    Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                    France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                    Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                    Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                    Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                    Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                    South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                    England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                    @machpants is it odd that NO Northern Hemisphere 6Nations team got any red cards in 2017? are they really that well behaved or do they not know how to tackle so hard that the referee calls it illegal and dishes out a red card 🍭

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      Apart from the Boks?

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                                      @machpants think you'll find they have teams in NH competition 😉

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        From this article:
                                        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                        Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                                        @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        From this article:
                                        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                        Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

                                        Not sure SBW yellow ought to count, being a technical card for trying to use a league stunt in a rugby test?

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          From this article:
                                          Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                          New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                          England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                          @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          From this article:
                                          Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                          New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                          France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                          South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                          England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

                                          Those statistics only mean something relative to the number of games. However I imagine all teams played roughly the same number of games.

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