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All Blacks Squad for France

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  • MN5M MN5

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

    It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

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    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @tim said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    If I hear another rugby player talk about "us challenging ourselves" I am going to vomit.

    It could be worse. They could be going on a 'journey'

    That requires a pact.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

      I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

        I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

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        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        I hope so. The tactics were absolutely dire last year. Some of those moves still fill me with dread. Still can't believe the Israel Dagg hit up off an attacking scrum.

        At the end of Lions 3, I'm still steaming about TJP flapping his arms aroudn when we had an attacking scrum, and letting Conor thieve the ball.

        Do your core job first, worry about the ref second. Modern rugby sucks for this, there are more seagulls than our local dump.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/104071291/all-blacks-preparing-to-unleash-revamped-game-on-the-fastchasing-rugby-world

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          so we are looking at playing a new style of rugby v the French...

          Maybe. Or a ruthless media strategy designed to make Eddie's brain implode under the strain of uncertainty.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

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            @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

            Yellows/Reds last year

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            • M Machpants

              @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

              Yellows/Reds last year

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              @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

              Yellows/Reds last year

              Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                All Blacks coach Steve Hansen indicated Taufua could play all three loose forward positions.

                I'd missed that. With the limitations on squad numbers the selectors love utilities.

                Have a hunch they're hoping Fifita does enough to convince them that he can cover lock at RWC. Which would make third lock a dogfight between Barrett (S), Patty T and Romero.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                  Yellows/Reds last year

                  Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

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                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                  Yellows/Reds last year

                  Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                  I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                  NZ got 8/1
                  Eng got 1/0
                  Boks got 1/1
                  Ireland got 3/0
                  ...?
                  (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                  • KruseK Kruse

                    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @machpants I'm not really following the numbers at the end.. What do they mean?

                    Yellows/Reds last year

                    Four sets of numbers and three teams? Or am I being blind? And...England?

                    I'm guessing it's the numbers for each team, over their respective seasons...
                    NZ got 8/1
                    Eng got 1/0
                    Boks got 1/1
                    Ireland got 3/0
                    ...?
                    (Although - it took me a fair bit of time to figure it out myself)

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                    @kruse Ahhh, cheers! I geddit.

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                      Yeah makes perfect sense when you know the answer! Sorry for not being clearer

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                        From this article:
                        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                        Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                        Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                        France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                        Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                        Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                        Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                        Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                        South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                        England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                        • M Machpants

                          From this article:
                          Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                          New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                          Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                          Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                          France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                          Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                          Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                          Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                          Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                          South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                          England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                          @machpants shows the clear bias by referees towards nations with teams in the NH hemisphere competitions.

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                            Machpants
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                            Apart from the Boks?

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                            • M Machpants

                              From this article:
                              Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                              New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                              France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                              South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                              England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                              @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                              From this article:
                              Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                              New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                              Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                              • M Machpants

                                From this article:
                                Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                @machpants is it odd that NO Northern Hemisphere 6Nations team got any red cards in 2017? are they really that well behaved or do they not know how to tackle so hard that the referee calls it illegal and dishes out a red card 🍭

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                                • M Machpants

                                  Apart from the Boks?

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                                  @machpants think you'll find they have teams in NH competition 😉

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    From this article:
                                    Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                    New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                    Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

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                                    @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    From this article:
                                    Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                    New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card

                                    Out of interest I checked to see if there were any multiple offenders. SBW was the red, and the yellow cards were Kaino, B Barrett, Todd, Read, SBW, Cane, Crockett and Whitelock.

                                    Not sure SBW yellow ought to count, being a technical card for trying to use a league stunt in a rugby test?

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      From this article:
                                      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                      England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

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                                      @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      From this article:
                                      Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                      New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                      France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                      South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                      England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

                                      Those statistics only mean something relative to the number of games. However I imagine all teams played roughly the same number of games.

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        @machpants said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        From this article:
                                        Tier 1 card counts - 2017

                                        New Zealand – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        Argentina – 8 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        Australia – 7 yellow cards, 1 red card
                                        France – 5 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Italy - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Scotland - 4 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Ireland – 3 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        Wales – 2 yellow cards, 0 red cards
                                        South Africa – 1 yellow card, 1 red card
                                        England – 1 yellow card, 0 red cards

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12054914

                                        Those statistics only mean something relative to the number of games. However I imagine all teams played roughly the same number of games.

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                                        @billy-tell Do your homework! 🙂

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                                          I thought this was a nice summary of things on Frizell vs Akira from Hansen that not everyone might have seen or heard.

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12056403

                                          But ultimately it's Frizzell's desire on the field that they like the most. When he has played for the Highlanders, he's made himself visible and high impact.
                                          
                                          "We have noticed him all season really," says Hansen. 'He fits the mould of players that the All Blacks have used in the past. He's very assertive, he's got plenty of energy and he carries well. He's got the right intentions when he's got the ball and he's got the right intentions when he's not got the ball.
                                          
                                          "And the reason why we picked him and not Akira [Ioane] is because his intentions without the ball are really strong. He's physical, he wants to make big tackles. He wants to put himself about the park and intimidate people in a positive way and that is what we have to grow in Akira.
                                          
                                          "When Akira has ball in hand he's world class. But the rest of what we need him to do is in the learning process but that's okay because he's only 22. He's a young man and he'll get there."
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