All Blacks Squad for France
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@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
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Don't get me wrong about Frizell though, TBH I haven't really seen him play at all this year so can't really comment. Be great if he turned out to be the next Kaino, God knows we need it if flat-track-bully Squire is next in line.
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@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Like Fifita?
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Like Fifita?
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@KiwiMurph the way they talk about Frizell you'd think he was good enough to hold down a starting spot at the Landers. Mauger must have a blind spot...
Highlanders have some good loosies, Squire and Dixon etc. I don't have an issue with Frizell being picked on potential - he looked bloody good against the Blues when he scored a hat trick - certainly looked to have something special. My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
Get off the fern Stephen Jones
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@antipodean said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
My main issue is he is a blatant poach and should be playing for Tonga.
I like to leave those decisions to the players. After all, they haven't picked him yet either...
Money talks. The $ potential of playing for ABs vs playing for Tonga isn't exactly close.
Playing for the ABs is seen as the ultimate goal for a lot of PI players. No doubt money plays a part, but there are cultural aspects to it as well.
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That photo shows you how many support staff are involved. I don't even know who half of them are!
@bovidae Good to see Akira Ioane there as part of the coaching staff.
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The poaching thing used to annoy me as we were trolled when we weren't actually doing any poaching, instead Polynesian-New Zealanders were country swapping.
Now we are actually doing it, so I'm chilled. Nothing to actually be annoyed about now. I expect plenty more, been a trend of about 1 every 2 years for the last decade.
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@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
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@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
@bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
Kaino certainly took three or four years to really show his potential. IMO absolute peak when 28.
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@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
It wouldn't be so bad if Frizell had made more of an impression for the Highlanders, but aside from that try scoring game, and his unimpressive cameo on the weekend, I barely remember him being on the field. He must be putting in some big hits on the training field.
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@stargazer Do the Chiefs have a dodgy mo 'thing' going at the moment?
@pakman said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@stargazer Do the Chiefs have a dodgy mo 'thing' going at the moment?
They had them for the SA tour. DMac might need more time though.
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@bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@kiwimurph said in All Blacks Squad for France:
@nepia They are looking for a Collins/Kaino type defender in the loose forwards it seems. That's not really Akira - he uses his strength to hold up or pull others down. I'm not convinced you can 'learn' it either - you either have it or you don't.
I dunno... The last year or slightly more has shown a huge improvement in Whitelocks ability to boss the tackle. If he can learn it, surely Ioane can. Plus I don't recall it being something in Kainos arsenal until he'd been around a few years.
Kaino certainly took three or four years to really show his potential. IMO absolute peak when 28.
