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All Blacks Squad for France

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @kiwimurph I wonder what he adds, except an extra 30 kgs, what DLB doesn't. Same age; more SR experience.

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    @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @kiwimurph I wonder what he adds, except an extra 30 kgs, what DLB doesn't. Same age; more SR experience.

    You've got a good part of your answer right there.

    Size matters in rugby and in some positions more than others. We've seen Hansen asking people like Coles to add several kilos to their frames.

    DLB's internet stats have him being only the size of a big hooker and, not only that, when you see him on the field he looks like a small prop.

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      Hames is not a big prop when you see him up close but he more than holds his own in the scrum. That matters to Cron.

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        Hames is not a big prop when you see him up close but he more than holds his own in the scrum. That matters to Cron.

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        @bovidae Yep - he's a very good and destructive scrummager - but, he will struggle to get past Moody who is also an excellent scrummager, but also significantly bigger.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @bovidae Yep - he's a very good and destructive scrummager - but, he will struggle to get past Moody who is also an excellent scrummager, but also significantly bigger.

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          @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @bovidae Yep - he's a very good and destructive scrummager - but, he will struggle to get past Moody who is also an excellent scrummager, but also significantly bigger.

          I'm not saying he will, just pointing out that DLB's lack of size won't be the only reason he was overlooked. And size doesn't translate into scrummaging power, e.g. Mackintosh.

          We're building up some depth at prop when you bring back Laulala and add Moli and Ross to the mix.

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            Ofa might be the LH cover on the bench

            In 5 prop squads he has to be the emergency cover if there is a last minute injury. It's worth testing him in that role

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              Ofa might be the LH cover on the bench

              In 5 prop squads he has to be the emergency cover if there is a last minute injury. It's worth testing him in that role

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              @duluth said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              Ofa might be the LH cover on the bench

              The fact Ofa can play LH was mentioned by Hansen in the post-selection interviews. You would have to think Ofa and JTA will be the bench props.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @chris-b said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                @bovidae Yep - he's a very good and destructive scrummager - but, he will struggle to get past Moody who is also an excellent scrummager, but also significantly bigger.

                I'm not saying he will, just pointing out that DLB's lack of size won't be the only reason he was overlooked. And size doesn't translate into scrummaging power, e.g. Mackintosh.

                We're building up some depth at prop when you bring back Laulala and add Moli and Ross to the mix.

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                @bovidae Not the only reason, but an important one.

                You will find plenty of fat club props running around - who have the size but aren't going to play for the ABs.

                But, if you look at most of the props who've been picked for the ABs in recent times they've tended to be getting up around 120kgs. Some like Faumuina have been bigger.

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                  "including All Blacks' test series against France". WTF, they're dropping like flies!

                  https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                    jeez that'll be a raw loose trio if neither Cane nor Squire recover

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                    • M Machpants

                      jeez that'll be a raw loose trio if neither Cane nor Squire recover

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                      @machpants Quite a raw pack if Sam Whitelock joins them on the sidelines.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @kiwimurph Geezus, why not Crockett?

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                        @stargazer Because we need to develop the squad. Crockett has retired. Next please.

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                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/104135678/dane-coles-faces-longer-on-the-sideline-after-second-bout-of-knee-surgery

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                            @tim I was just about to post that!

                            Has this been posted?
                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @tim I was just about to post that!

                              Has this been posted?
                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

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                              @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                              @tim I was just about to post that!

                              Has this been posted?
                              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

                              'Player doesn't get picked because incumbents have been there and done that'

                              Shit, what a scoop.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @tim I was just about to post that!

                                Has this been posted?
                                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

                                'Player doesn't get picked because incumbents have been there and done that'

                                Shit, what a scoop.

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                                @mn5 thanks rugby authority.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @mn5 thanks rugby authority.

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                                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                  @mn5 thanks rugby authority.

                                  Hey, some of us don't have sky anymore.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @tim I was just about to post that!

                                    Has this been posted?
                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

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                                    @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    @tim I was just about to post that!

                                    Has this been posted?
                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/ben-lam-missed-blacks-spot

                                    From the quotes in that, which could just be selective, it sounds like Lam was in direct competition with Reiko and Naholo and not so much NMS.

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                                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @kiwimurph I wonder what he adds, except an extra 30 kgs, what DLB doesn't. Same age; more SR experience.

                                      Tu’inukuafe has a reputation of being a very good scrummager, which was one of the main reasons that the Chiefs brought him in. I'm sure the Chiefs will want to keep him and add another to the list of one that got away from the Blues.

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                                      @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @kiwimurph I wonder what he adds, except an extra 30 kgs, what DLB doesn't. Same age; more SR experience.

                                      Tu’inukuafe has a reputation of being a very good scrummager, which was one of the main reasons that the Chiefs brought him in. I'm sure the Chiefs will want to keep him and add another to the list of one that got away from the Blues.

                                      More than just reputation. He conducted himself well against Wilco Louw (Stormers) and Forearm Franks, whom I'm sure was asked his opinion by the AB selectors. In fact a step up in this department from Perry.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        "including All Blacks' test series against France". WTF, they're dropping like flies!

                                        https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

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                                        @stargazer said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                        "including All Blacks' test series against France". WTF, they're dropping like flies!

                                        https://twitter.com/Goiley/status/999129272563331072

                                        Cue Todd training with squad as precaution. Crafty AB selectors getting 35 in squad for price of 32 -- cake and?

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @stargazer Because we need to develop the squad. Crockett has retired. Next please.

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                                          @broughie said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          @stargazer Because we need to develop the squad. Crockett has retired. Next please.

                                          One area the French team isn't injury weakened is prop. It could be a steep 'learning'?!

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