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  • C cgrant

    With Perry injured, Hames still feeling symptoms of his concussion and Crockett retired, who is going to be the reserve LHP ? Let's have a look at the different teams.
    Blues : Manu. I think he is not fit enough for international rugby.
    Canes : Smith. He is Australian. Eves. Cannot scrum.
    Crusaders : Allan. Too green. King. Too old.
    Landers : DLB. Not up to the task in terms of scrummaging.
    Chiefs : Tu'inukuafe. Maybe the best scrummager in the country. Questions about his workrate though.

    Your opinion ?

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    @cgrant I hope the selectors will convince Crockett to postpone his retirement. If not, they might move Ofa to LH.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      If Laulala is good to go I wonder if they will use Ofa as a reserve LH? It's not his best position but might be the best option available.

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      @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      If Laulala is good to go I wonder if they will use Ofa as a reserve LH? It's not his best position but might be the best option available.

      Ahhh. I should have hit the "refresh" button.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

        All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

        DMac is the new Toeava

        Toeava could play ten.

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        @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

        This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

        All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

        DMac is the new Toeava

        Toeava could play ten.

        Toeava could either play nothing or play the entire backline by himself, depending on which side of Toeava fence you sat.

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

          All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

          DMac is the new Toeava

          Toeava could play ten.

          Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

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          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

          All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

          DMac is the new Toeava

          Toeava could play ten.

          Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

          That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai

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          • CrucialC Crucial

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

            All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

            DMac is the new Toeava

            Toeava could play ten.

            Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

            That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai

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            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

            All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

            DMac is the new Toeava

            Toeava could play ten.

            Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

            That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe.

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            • MN5M Online
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              It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

              What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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              • MN5M MN5

                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                Plays for the Crusaders. A path many have trod.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

                  All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

                  DMac is the new Toeava

                  Toeava could play ten.

                  Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

                  That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe.

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                  @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

                  All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

                  DMac is the new Toeava

                  Toeava could play ten.

                  Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

                  That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe. Rob Thomas

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                    What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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                    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                    What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                    Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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                      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                      Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                      I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                      Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                      Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                      • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                        @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                        It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                        What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                        Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                        Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                        I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                        Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                        Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                        @chester-draws
                        A bit harsh, isn't it ? One of the best backline display by the ABs was the 57 - 15 win against the Springboks in South Africa in 2016. Do you remember who was playing 1st 5/8 that day ?

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                        • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                          @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                          Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                          Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                          I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                          Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                          Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                          @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                          Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                          Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                          I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                          Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                          Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                          Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                          What a nonsense post.

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                          • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                            @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                            What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                            Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                            Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                            I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                            Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                            Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                            Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                            What a nonsense post.

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                            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                            It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                            What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                            Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                            Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                            I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                            Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                            Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                            Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                            What a nonsense post.

                            In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                            Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

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                              As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                              But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                              I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                              He's still only won one championship.

                              And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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                                @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                                He's played much more that Toddy did

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                                  Any other rugby supporters around the world would look at this and say , those kiwis are fucked ,

                                  Cant believe they are complaining about beuadan Barrett

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                                  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                    As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                                    But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                                    I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                                    He's still only won one championship.

                                    And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

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                                    @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                    As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                                    But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                                    I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                                    He's still only won one championship.

                                    And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

                                    If you mean that Cruden had better players in his backlines, then yes totally agree. Nonu and Konrad shit on the combos BB has played with.

                                    BB replaced Cruden, not because Hansen loves him because he's a much better player and 10. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to say it's complete garbage.

                                    That losses argument is straight out idiotic.

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                                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                                      Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                                      I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                                      Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                                      Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                                      Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                                      What a nonsense post.

                                      In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                                      Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                                      Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                                      I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                                      Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                                      Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                                      Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                                      What a nonsense post.

                                      In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                                      Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

                                      That's reaching in the extreme. Yeah, despite carving up the Chiefs, his clearing kicks needed another metre. This is beyond ridiculous.

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                                      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                        Any other rugby supporters around the world would look at this and say , those kiwis are fucked ,

                                        Cant believe they are complaining about beuadan Barrett

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                                        @kiwiinmelb That made me smile. Apparently DC wasn't that good either.

                                        The sky is falling a little bit though. 2 losses and a draw last year, well above our one loss that I can almost accept. Admittedly one of those losses and the draw were due to corrupt officiating but I'm not bitter and the therapy will help eventually.

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                                          Crudan also used to avoid getting the ball at ten until an opportunity to run was on, so not sure he’s a good counter point.

                                          BB is at least as good as Crudan at running a backline. Maybe both relied on Dagg going into first receiver, and have suffering his loss to injury and playing on the wing?

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