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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

    All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

    DMac is the new Toeava

    Toeava could play ten.

    Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

    This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

    All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

    DMac is the new Toeava

    Toeava could play ten.

    Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

    That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

      All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

      DMac is the new Toeava

      Toeava could play ten.

      Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

      That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai

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      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

      This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

      All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

      DMac is the new Toeava

      Toeava could play ten.

      Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

      That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe.

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        It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

        What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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        • MN5M MN5

          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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          #68

          @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

          Plays for the Crusaders. A path many have trod.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

            All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

            DMac is the new Toeava

            Toeava could play ten.

            Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

            That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe.

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            #69

            @bones said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks Squad for France:

            This thread is starting to resemble the good old days around AB selection time ,

            All we need is Toeava to make himself available .

            DMac is the new Toeava

            Toeava could play ten.

            Every position in the backline , in a heartbeat :winking_face:

            That's an exaggeration. He was no Charlie Ngatai Jonah Lowe. Rob Thomas

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            • MN5M MN5

              It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

              What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

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              #70

              @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

              It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

              What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

              Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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                #71

                @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                  @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                  It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                  What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                  Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                  Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                  I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                  Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                  Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                  @chester-draws
                  A bit harsh, isn't it ? One of the best backline display by the ABs was the 57 - 15 win against the Springboks in South Africa in 2016. Do you remember who was playing 1st 5/8 that day ?

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                  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                    @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                    What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                    Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                    Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                    I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                    Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                    Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

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                    #73

                    @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                    It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                    What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                    Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                    Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                    I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                    Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                    Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                    Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                    What a nonsense post.

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                    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                      @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                      Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                      I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                      Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                      Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                      Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                      What a nonsense post.

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                      @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                      It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                      What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                      Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                      Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                      I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                      Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                      Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                      Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                      What a nonsense post.

                      In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                      Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

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                      • Chester DrawsC Offline
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                        As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                        But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                        I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                        He's still only won one championship.

                        And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                          Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

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                          @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                          It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                          What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                          Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                          He's played much more that Toddy did

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                            Any other rugby supporters around the world would look at this and say , those kiwis are fucked ,

                            Cant believe they are complaining about beuadan Barrett

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                            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                              As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                              But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                              I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                              He's still only won one championship.

                              And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

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                              @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                              As I said, individual brilliance. That is not in doubt.

                              But Cruden directed a better backline, both at Super and AB level.

                              I've watched a fair few Rennie Chiefs vs Hurricanes games. Mostly BB has been average. You can pull out exceptions. It's harder for me to pull out whole games where he's been average.

                              He's still only won one championship.

                              And lost more AB games than Cruden or DC in their longer careers.

                              If you mean that Cruden had better players in his backlines, then yes totally agree. Nonu and Konrad shit on the combos BB has played with.

                              BB replaced Cruden, not because Hansen loves him because he's a much better player and 10. You're entitled to your opinion, just as I'm entitled to say it's complete garbage.

                              That losses argument is straight out idiotic.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                                Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                                I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                                Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                                Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                                Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                                What a nonsense post.

                                In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                                Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @chester-draws said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @crucial said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                @mn5 said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                It's probably about time I ask the same question I do every year.

                                What the hell does Luke Romano do to keep getting in the team?

                                Luke Romano is the new Todd Blackadder?

                                Was Todd ever a suitcase? I don't recall that -- IMO like Jon Mitchell he was a pick for a particular need at a particular time.

                                I'm also in the not yet that persuaded by BB at 10 (I much prefer him as a fullback). An outrageously gifted player who sadly is not good for the team when he plays 10.

                                Looking at all the cool things he does individually distracts from looking at how his AB backlines have been lacklustre. Thinking sides like the Rennie Chiefs and the BIL shut him down easily enough. He's won one Super series.

                                Our back play is far worse than under Cruden, who didn't have the athletic gifts but gave other players space and time. Carter added goal kicking, which Beauden still is erratic with.

                                Yeah those Chiefs really shut him down.

                                What a nonsense post.

                                In terms of this thread, you pretty much just proved @mariner4life ’s point?

                                Fantastic player with plenty of pace, but those highlights hardly show a first five directing play. Plenty of pace though.

                                That's reaching in the extreme. Yeah, despite carving up the Chiefs, his clearing kicks needed another metre. This is beyond ridiculous.

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                                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                  Any other rugby supporters around the world would look at this and say , those kiwis are fucked ,

                                  Cant believe they are complaining about beuadan Barrett

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                                  @kiwiinmelb That made me smile. Apparently DC wasn't that good either.

                                  The sky is falling a little bit though. 2 losses and a draw last year, well above our one loss that I can almost accept. Admittedly one of those losses and the draw were due to corrupt officiating but I'm not bitter and the therapy will help eventually.

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                                    Crudan also used to avoid getting the ball at ten until an opportunity to run was on, so not sure he’s a good counter point.

                                    BB is at least as good as Crudan at running a backline. Maybe both relied on Dagg going into first receiver, and have suffering his loss to injury and playing on the wing?

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      Crudan also used to avoid getting the ball at ten until an opportunity to run was on, so not sure he’s a good counter point.

                                      BB is at least as good as Crudan at running a backline. Maybe both relied on Dagg going into first receiver, and have suffering his loss to injury and playing on the wing?

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                                      @kirwan said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                      Crudan also used to avoid getting the ball at ten until an opportunity to run was on, so not sure he’s a good counter point.

                                      BB is at least as good as Crudan at running a backline. Maybe both relied on Dagg going into first receiver, and have suffering his loss to injury and playing on the wing?

                                      The biggest problem in 2017 was the flat backlines and tactics. Wasn't conducive to attacking play in the slightest. Some of the moves were bizarre. Hoping they fix this in 2018 even if they are so unfortunate to be stuck with that average 2-time international player of the year at 10. Useless cnut.

                                      The comment above is so right. Foreigners must look at these comments and wonder what certain people are smoking.

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                                        Yeah, but this sort of criticism is part of why we have such a winning culture. I’d hate for it to go away.

                                        I remember a good quote from one of the AB biographies, yes you are now an All Black, now you want to be a great All Black.

                                        Always something to improve.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          If Laulala is good to go I wonder if they will use Ofa as a reserve LH? It's not his best position but might be the best option available.

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                                          @bovidae said in All Blacks Squad for France:

                                          If Laulala is good to go I wonder if they will use Ofa as a reserve LH? It's not his best position but might be the best option available.

                                          It's probably the way to go. Ofa T makes such huge strides in the AB environment that I'd have a reasonable amount of confidence that if they put the work in with him on the other side of the scrum that it would eventually bear fruit.

                                          I like that guy. Since he cut his hair. Don't like clown looking props. Seen too many NZ U20s scrums back-pedalling anchored by props with clown haircuts (in particular Ofa T) that I've developed a complex .....

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