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All Blacks v France Test #2

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  • TordahT Tordah

    Does a HIA fail automatically mean he's concussed?

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    Baron Silas Greenback
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    @tordah said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

    Does a HIA fail automatically mean he's concussed?

    Yes. He has to pass one this week, before he can play again.

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    • TordahT Offline
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      Tordah
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      #218

      they tried the same move as in the WC final 2011 but O Franks is just a terrible ball runner

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      • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

        What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

        Calm the fuck down.

        Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

        I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

        Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

        I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

        I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

        How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

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        @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

        Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

        What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

        Calm the fuck down.

        Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

        I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

        Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

        I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

        I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

        How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

        Do you think he meant to tip him on his head?

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          DMac at five-eighth, so technically it's still an even game.

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          Gunner
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          #220

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

          DMac at five-eighth, so technically it's still an even game.

          And it will be claimed by media that he is capable of playing 10 for the ABs because they’ve had a comfortable win.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

            What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

            Calm the fuck down.

            Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

            I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

            Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

            I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

            I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

            How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

            Do you think he meant to tip him on his head?

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            Baron Silas Greenback
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            #221

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

            Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

            What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

            Calm the fuck down.

            Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

            I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

            Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

            I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

            I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

            How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

            Do you think he meant to tip him on his head?

            No idea. That's the point.

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            • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

              @tordah said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

              Does a HIA fail automatically mean he's concussed?

              Yes. He has to pass one this week, before he can play again.

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              taniwharugby
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              #222

              @baron-silas-greenback I think there are tests tomorrow and again on Monday and Tuesday whether he passes tomorrow's or not

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              • Baron Silas GreenbackB Baron Silas Greenback

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

                What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

                Calm the fuck down.

                Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

                I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

                Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

                I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

                I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

                How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

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                canefan
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                #223

                @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

                What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

                Calm the fuck down.

                Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

                I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

                Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

                I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

                I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

                How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

                In basketball we call it tunnelling. It is a cardinal sin to attack the guy when he is jumping in the air

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                • TordahT Tordah

                  they tried the same move as in the WC final 2011 but O Franks is just a terrible ball runner

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #224

                  @tordah said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                  they tried the same move as in the WC final 2011 but O Franks is just a terrible ball runner

                  Also the front pod didn't take out the french defenders like in that final. Close the gap!!

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

                    What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

                    Calm the fuck down.

                    Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

                    I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

                    Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

                    I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

                    I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

                    How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

                    Do you think he meant to tip him on his head?

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                    antipodean
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #225

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @baron-silas-greenback said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                    Okay. That shouldn't be a red. Intent should count.

                    What? He didn't intend to be a fucking idiot? Too stupid to know what he was doing?

                    Calm the fuck down.

                    Eyes on the ball. Gets a shoulder from ioane just before contact. Bangs in to a guy who jumps. Never grabs. Doesn't run through him. Yellow all day. But i think a red needs a higher threshold.

                    I respectfully disagree. That was incredibly dangerous. He was never going to get that ball. He barely left the ground ffs. Clear red all day.

                    Outcome was dangerous. But i think the player needs to have some intent to injure before a red becomes an option.

                    I am aware i am in disagreement with the laws here, and it's just an opinion.

                    I don't like that the same action gets a different card if barrett doesnt land on his head.

                    How would you accurately judge intent? Keeping eyes on ball as you break a guys neck?

                    Do you think he meant to tip him on his head?

                    Irrelevant. Ben Smith pulled out of a contest last weekend because he did what Fall should have done. Checked his path while looking to contest the ball. Had he done it for a split second, he could have checked his run and smashed Beaudy when he landed.

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                      canefan
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                      #226

                      The French 15 was stupid. A near miss a few minutes before went unpunished and he didn't take the hint

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                      • GunnerG Gunner

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                        DMac at five-eighth, so technically it's still an even game.

                        And it will be claimed by media that he is capable of playing 10 for the ABs because they’ve had a comfortable win.

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                        @gunner DMAC has chosen to run lines for himself the first two touches, rather than distribute.

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                        • K kev

                          @gunner DMAC has chosen to run lines for himself the first two touches, rather than distribute.

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                          @kev said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                          @gunner DMAC has chosen to run lines for himself the first two touches, rather than distribute.

                          He's not a five-eighth's arse.

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                            Why call him Jordan Barrett Mr Marshall, or if we are using birth names, Justina

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                              Haha go quick tap, pass to the slow whitelock, barrett falls over, turnover.

                              Both teams know this game is a foregone conclusion

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                                I hope they give JB 15 minutes in the 10 position too

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                                  Pass the fucking ball Whitelock, you think that quick tap was for you?

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                                    #233

                                    Are red cards going to end up being 30 or 40 mins + the player is out of the game?

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                                      Jesus H Christ, that ball came half a metre out the back of the ruck before Parra kicked it back in.

                                      I wish the refs would open their fucking eyes a bit more.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        I hope they give JB 15 minutes in the 10 position too

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                                        @canefan said in All Blacks v France Test #2:

                                        I hope they give JB 15 minutes in the 10 position too

                                        I think they could see how Owen Frank's goes there and still win comfortably

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Are red cards going to end up being 30 or 40 mins + the player is out of the game?

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                                          #236

                                          @tim imo unless it is for a punch, kick or that kind of action, player goes off, other team can replace him after 10

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