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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • BonesB Bones

    Forgot to mention the great cameo by Ta-who-ree-oh-rung-ee. Was brilliant, a very nice blend of Smith and Perenara.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156298339833764&id=120797573763&_rdr

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    @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    Forgot to mention the great cameo by Ta-who-ree-oh-rung-ee. Was brilliant, a very nice blend of Smith and Perenara.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156298339833764&id=120797573763&_rdr

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      Just on Frizzell for the last time - all the fern agrees we need options at 6 to replace Kaino. Squire is a reasonable choice, and is generally pretty decent, but even if he is the man, you can't put all your eggs into the Squire basket. So the coaches are obliged to try other options - they lost Vito and Luatua, Fifita didn't fit the bill, and they were probably going to give the luckless Taufua a shot. Frizzell seems worth an investment, and his game today was probably a 7/10. He certainly has the physical attributes for 6 anyway, although not sure yet if he is genuine lineout option. In any case, coaches seem damned if they do and damned if they don't.

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      @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      Just on Frizzell for the last time - all the fern agrees we need options at 6 to replace Kaino. Squire is a reasonable choice, and is generally pretty decent, but even if he is the man, you can't put all your eggs into the Squire basket. So the coaches are obliged to try other options - they lost Vito and Luatua, Fifita didn't fit the bill, and they were probably going to give the luckless Taufua a shot. Frizzell seems worth an investment, and his game today was probably a 7/10. He certainly has the physical attributes for 6 anyway, although not sure yet if he is genuine lineout option. In any case, coaches seem damned if they do and damned if they don't.

      Akira?

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      • MajorPomM MajorPom

        Argies taking a lot of praise.

        Pretty exciting back 3 they have, but scoreline snd game plan broadly similar to last years fixture

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        @majorrage said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

        Argies taking a lot of praise.

        Pretty exciting back 3 they have, but scoreline snd game plan broadly similar to last years fixture

        Have they sacrificed a traditional strength though?

        What cliche will TJ have now?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          Tackle stats:

          Tackles made - Tackles missed

          1 Tuinukuafe 5 -5
          2 Taylor 8 - 0
          3 Franks 5 - 2
          [4 Retallick 1 - 0]
          5 Barrett 10 - 2
          6 Frizell 16 - 0
          7 Savea 15 - 1
          8 Read 8 -2
          9 Perenara 7 - 2
          10 Mo'unga 9 - 2
          11 Naholo 5 - 1
          [12 Laumape 0 - 0]
          13 Goodhue 9 - 3
          14 Milner-Skudder 7 - 1
          15 Smith 4 - 1
          16 Harris 3 - 2
          17 Perry 4 - 0
          18 Tu'ungafasi 6 - 1
          19 S Whitelock 13 - 2
          20 L Whitelock 8 - 0
          21 Tahuriorangi 1 - 0
          22 McKenzie 0 - 1
          23 Lienert-Brown 8 - 0

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          @stargazer tackle stats are a bit mis leading, Naholo was out of position a couple of times on Argie breaks, and others tracking back to cover missed tackles that he should have been there to make (or miss)

          Sure I saw Frizzell miss one too

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Derm-McCrum

            @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            Forgot to mention the great cameo by Ta-who-ree-oh-rung-ee. Was brilliant, a very nice blend of Smith and Perenara.

            https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156298339833764&id=120797573763&_rdr

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            @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @Derm-McCrum

            @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            Forgot to mention the great cameo by Ta-who-ree-oh-rung-ee. Was brilliant, a very nice blend of Smith and Perenara.

            https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156298339833764&id=120797573763&_rdr

            Agreed.

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @booboo two Gary Oweeennns.

              @hooroo who is Fritz?

              What’s the blindsides name? Fritzel?

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              @hooroo haaaaa the Fritzel blindside.

              That's a whole other story bro.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                Dmac , despite his haters , starting to look the goods as an impact weapon

                Starting?

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                @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                Dmac , despite his haters , starting to look the goods as an impact weapon

                Starting?

                Not at this point in time for me .

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @kirwan said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  I haven't watched a minute of it, but

                  Giving up that many points at home is unacceptable.

                  That doesn’t take into account the opposition, the Argies were good for the points they scored. Best wingers on the field we’re not wearing black.

                  Cheers. Is it worth the replay?

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  @kirwan said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  I haven't watched a minute of it, but

                  Giving up that many points at home is unacceptable.

                  That doesn’t take into account the opposition, the Argies were good for the points they scored. Best wingers on the field we’re not wearing black.

                  Cheers. Is it worth the replay?

                  While probably not outstanding ,

                  I enjoyed this game , and i think part of that was watching the Argies throw something at us a bit different .

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                  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                    Fuck imagine their wingers on the end of an AB backline. Instant chubby and a metric shit-ton of tries. Some of the best attacking rugby I've seen against the abs of late.

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                    @paekakboyz said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    Fuck imagine their wingers on the end of an AB backline. Instant chubby and a metric shit-ton of tries. Some of the best attacking rugby I've seen against the abs of late.

                    I got a pants tent when watching the wingers try where he stepped three abs .

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                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                      Good game to watch. I much prefer this Argie team to the negative, niggly, diving teams from previous years. Subbing your best player at 50 mins can't help though. At least there were no brain explosions from Johnathon Thurston's taller, more argentinia brother in the 5 jersey.

                      Think people here are being pretty harsh on Mounga. A few mistakes but actually played a pretty mature game and kicked his goals well.

                      Ardie played close to his best game in Black.

                      Frizzel was actually pretty impressive for someone so raw. Big dude too. Already looks more of a test 6 than Fifita.

                      TTT looked good in his cameo.

                      TJP had one of his better games i thought.

                      Karl T great in the scrums again.

                      ALB and Goodhue were good in midfield. Strong but controlled. Great to see.

                      Now for the bad. Harris WTF. The first thing on the list of hooker must haves is being able to throw the ball into the lineout. Consistently terrible.

                      NMS has lost his pace. It sux because he was awesome in 2015. Made some poor decisions too.
                      Hope someone like Alaimalo or Nanai get a chance on the EOYT.

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                      @pukunui said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      Good game to watch. I much prefer this Argie team to the negative, niggly, diving teams from previous years. Subbing your best player at 50 mins can't help though. At least there were no brain explosions from Johnathon Thurston's taller, more argentinia brother in the 5 jersey.

                      Think people here are being pretty harsh on Mounga. A few mistakes but actually played a pretty mature game and kicked his goals well.

                      Ardie played close to his best game in Black.

                      Frizzel was actually pretty impressive for someone so raw. Big dude too. Already looks more of a test 6 than Fifita.

                      TTT looked good in his cameo.

                      TJP had one of his better games i thought.

                      Karl T great in the scrums again.

                      ALB and Goodhue were good in midfield. Strong but controlled. Great to see.

                      Now for the bad. Harris WTF. The first thing on the list of hooker must haves is being able to throw the ball into the lineout. Consistently terrible.

                      NMS has lost his pace. It sux because he was awesome in 2015. Made some poor decisions too.
                      Hope someone like Alaimalo or Nanai get a chance on the EOYT.

                      Agree with this apart from the lack of praise for the magnificence of Karl T's tache.

                      Goodhue continues to impress.

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                        It's the little things with Goodhue that makes him so classy. Last night for example, in the first half the ABs decided to run the ball out from inside the 22. They looked like they were in a spot of trouble, but Goodhue straightened before receiving the ball, went into contact and recycled the ball efficiently allowing the ABs to clear. Not a big deal to the casual observer, but lots of players would have held the outside line and risked being isolated or forced into touch.

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                          I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @hooroo haaaaa the Fritzel blindside.

                            That's a whole other story bro.

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                            @bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                            @hooroo haaaaa the Fritzel blindside.

                            That's a whole other story bro.

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                            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                              I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

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                              @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                              I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                              IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

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                              • GunnerG Gunner

                                @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

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                                @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

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                                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Dmac , despite his haters , starting to look the goods as an impact weapon

                                  Starting?

                                  Not at this point in time for me .

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                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Dmac , despite his haters , starting to look the goods as an impact weapon

                                  Starting?

                                  Not at this point in time for me .

                                  Umm ... was referring to the quote that he is "starting to look the goods as an impact weapon"...

                                  Looks pretty accomplished in that role.

                                  Wasn't referring to him starting a game at 10. Although frankly the hysteria about that is overstated. I personally would be quite happy that he would produce in a starter's role. Especially as he ain't gonna do that unless both BB and RM gone down. He's better than the fourth choice who is ... ummm ...

                                  And he handled it quite well v France.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                    I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                    IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                    NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

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                                    @mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                    I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                    IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                    NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

                                    A bitchkreig will probably descend on you for saying that.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                      I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                      IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                      NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

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                                      @mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                      I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                      IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                      NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

                                      You know I'd swipe right for you, but this has shaken me to the core.

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @gunner said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @crazy-horse said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        I reckon our best back three is Rieko and BFA on the wings and Jordie at fullback. Last night's combination was poor.

                                        I’ve said it before, I really struggle to see what the selectors see in NMS these days. He’s lost the spark.
                                        IMO Alaimalo would offer way more.

                                        NMS is basically going through what Cullen did. Once that speed goes there's nothing else to offer.

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                                        @mn5 not even a fucken patch. I was upbeat after your Fritzel interlude, that was class. But Cullen had way more to offer.

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                                          Ok in retrospect that wasn't my wisest post. Not enough coffee.

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