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All Blacks v Springboks

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

    Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

    Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?

    I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.

    Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.

    That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?

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    @kirwan I was screaming at the tv when BB took that last conversion...and missed. DMac was on the field. He should have taken it.

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      Well. Turns out losing to the Boks still sucks. I’d forgotten.

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      • MokeyM Mokey

        BB is way, WAY too erratic with his goalkicking for an international 1st 5. And that has to be concerning for the coaches, because if someone else has to do it, backline reshuffle.

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        @mokey said in All Blacks v Springboks:

        BB is way, WAY too erratic with his goalkicking for an international 1st 5. And that has to be concerning for the coaches, because if someone else has to do it, backline reshuffle.

        Jordie at 15, BFA at 14, JB does the kicks and DMac takes over when he comes on with fresh legs too.

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        • mimicM mimic

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

          Yeah.. He kicked 7/8

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          @mimic said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

          Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

          Yeah.. He kicked 7/8

          Do you think we would've scored six tries tonight based on his general play against Argentina?

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          • TordahT Tordah

            The missed conversions don't irk me as much (though one in particular was basically unforgivable) as the non-attempt at a dropgoal there at the end. Very annoying. Congrats Boks, well played

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            @tordah said in All Blacks v Springboks:

            The missed conversions don't irk me as much (though one in particular was basically unforgivable) as the non-attempt at a dropgoal there at the end. Very annoying. Congrats Boks, well played

            Given the position we had it was crazy. I could have knocked on over left-footed with a blindfold on from there. Surely DMac and Beauden aren't that awful at a simple droppie...

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @mimic said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

              Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

              Yeah.. He kicked 7/8

              Do you think we would've scored six tries tonight based on his general play against Argentina?

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              @antipodean We will never know.

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              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                @tordah said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                The missed conversions don't irk me as much (though one in particular was basically unforgivable) as the non-attempt at a dropgoal there at the end. Very annoying. Congrats Boks, well played

                Given the position we had it was crazy. I could have knocked on over left-footed with a blindfold on from there. Surely DMac and Beauden aren't that awful at a simple droppie...

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                @no-quarter It was so weird. There were several moments where it looked like DMac had exactly positioned himself for the droppie. And then he never got the ball.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  Let Dmac kick!

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                  @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                  Let Dmac kick!

                  Why is it we amateurs could all see that?

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                    I'm joining M4L in the "Jordie Barrett is overrated" club.

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                      Another sensational game that is reffed by Nigel Owens. He has quite the list of those (a few of them being AB v Boks game).

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @antipodean We will never know.

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                        @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                        @antipodean We will never know.

                        We know he was not great against a weaker opponent. Logical to assume he would have been worse against a fired up Bok side.

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @mokey said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                          BB is way, WAY too erratic with his goalkicking for an international 1st 5. And that has to be concerning for the coaches, because if someone else has to do it, backline reshuffle.

                          Jordie at 15, BFA at 14, JB does the kicks and DMac takes over when he comes on with fresh legs too.

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                          @kirwan Jordie has to be better to start.

                          Also Aaron Smith had a brain fart taking that early tap resulting in intercept. We forget that.

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                          • KirwanK Kirwan

                            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

                            Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?

                            I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.

                            Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.

                            That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?

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                            @kirwan said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                            Why are people saying "if we'd started Mo'unga"? Did they not watch his first test start?

                            Probably because a Mo'unga-BB 10 - 15 combo could have worked better than the BB-JB combo?

                            I'd never have started Mo'unga in this game but I'd have preferred him on the bench so that BB could drop back to 15 in the second half and RM could play at first five-eighth.

                            Would Mo’unga have taken over the kicking? DMac and JB are better kickers than BB, and even with BB having a particularly bad night with the boot Read didn’t give the ball to anyone else.

                            That was the most inexplicable thing to me, where was the captaincy to adjust when something was going wrong?

                            Put like that... why did the coach have the third best kicker in the 23 kicking goals from the start of the match....

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                            • mimicM mimic

                              @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              Since when is a drop goal a sure thing? Especially with the way Perenara was passing Beauden was kicking.

                              FIFY

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                              @mimic said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                              Since when is a drop goal a sure thing? Especially with the way Perenara was passing Beauden was kicking.

                              FIFY

                              DMac and Smith kicked zero.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                Beaudem Barrett fucking sucks

                                And so do his deadshit brothers

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                Beaudem Barrett fucking sucks

                                And so do his deadshit brothers

                                Your boy ALB gave them a good run for stupidest player on the pitch. Butchering a try by ignoring A Smith on his outside, gifting SA a try with the dumbest intercept you'll see bar Jordies. So bad they subbed him instead of Crotty who was struggling for fitness.

                                Ah, it's good to have something to argue about again.

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                                  I think Patty T may have played his last test in an AB jersey. He tends to lose the ball in contact too much. And as much as Ofa has improved, who else was nervous every time a scrum packed down in the 2nd half?

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    Let Dmac kick!

                                    Why is it we amateurs could all see that?

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                                    @booboo said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    Let Dmac kick!

                                    Why is it we amateurs could all see that?

                                    Especially because he had positioned himself on the field for it. He was ready for it and waiting for the ball. When it didn't come, he gave up and moved forward and knocked the ball on ...

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      Just checking ,has anyone who isn’t a crusaders fan said Mounga would have won us the game ?

                                      I don't think anyone (full stop) has said Mo'unga would have won us the game.

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                                      @stargazer said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      @jegga said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                      Just checking ,has anyone who isn’t a crusaders fan said Mounga would have won us the game ?

                                      I don't think anyone (full stop) has said Mo'unga would have won us the game.

                                      Yeah. Nah

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        Why the fuck didn't they keep doing what they were doing? Fucken DMac.

                                        I blame @booboo

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                                        @bones said in All Blacks v Springboks:

                                        Why the fuck didn't they keep doing what they were doing? Fucken DMac.

                                        I blame @booboo

                                        I blame Deans

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                                          I think this game highlights how bad of an idea it is to completely reshuffle your backline between matches

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