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Pumas vs All Blacks

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @tim Whitelock, Cane then Savea...

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    @taniwharugby One specialist 8, three 6s, and two 7s.

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      Patrick McKendry in the the Herald:

      The All Blacks starting loose forwards against Argentina a week on Sunday are likely to consist of Shannon Frizell – probably at No 8 – Jackson Hemopo and Sam Cane. Frizell and Hemopo have three tests between them.

      Vaea Fifita, back in the fold as Read's replacement is an option to start ahead of Hemopo but will probably be named on the reserves bench.

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12129551

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        Outside Read and Cane our loosies are by far the biggest weakness in our team.
        The continued non selection of Todd doesn't help.
        Fifita FFS.

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          Even Cane has not been that great last few tests, not his normal dominant self.

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            What the fuck is Fifita "I don't like doing hard work" doing there ahead of Akira.

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              Yeah it's bizarre, hard to say as a Canes fan, but Fafita and NMS shouldn't be in the squad. Akira (he's an 8 FFS, we've got two other so called 6's) and Mr A N Other awesome young and FAST NZ winger (take your pick)

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                I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

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                  I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                  If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

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                  @bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

                  I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                  If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

                  Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

                  The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

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                    @bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

                    I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                    If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

                    Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

                    The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

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                    @crucial According to the McKendry on the Herald "The All Blacks starting loose forwards against Argentina a week on Sunday are likely to consist of Shannon Frizell – probably at No 8 – Jackson Hemopo and Sam Cane. Frizell and Hemopo have three tests between them."

                    I reckon it'll be Whitelock at 8, for experience, in leadership and internationals both. They'll have a raw 6 of Frizzle or Hemopo, I really can;t see both starting

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                      @bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

                      I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                      If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

                      Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

                      The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

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                      @crucial Basing my comment on what McKendry said, assuming he is correct.

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                        @bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

                        I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                        If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

                        Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

                        The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

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                        Crucial said:

                        @bovidae said in Pumas vs All Blacks:

                        I find it surprising that L Whitelock won't start at no.8 when he was used in the French series when Read was injured.

                        If he doesn't, why the fuck is he in the squad?

                        Do you mean you 'would find it surprising'?

                        The team hasn't been named yet....(when is that by the way?)

                        I'll bite! Thu ... thur ... thurs .. day?

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                          Frizzell, Cane, L. Whitelock.

                          Not too concerned about the loosies. We just better pick some pace in the centres and 3/4s

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                            Rocky Rockbottom said:

                            6 Hemopo
                            7 Cane
                            8 Frizzle

                            ok, now that would be a test.

                            not saying that trio have got "first ever test loss to the Argies" written all over them but FFS HOLD ME MUMMY

                            still, rather Bum Splinters Frizzle than Luke Shitelock.

                            Why would you include Cane? Savea at 7 in that trio - now THAT would be a test.

                            I'm not sure why people are surprised about Fifita, Hansen clearly has a thing for running wide Tongan 6s. Why he doesn't like running and tackling Samoan-Maori guys is the big question. Well, actually, he does like one of them, just not the one who plays in the forwards.

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                              Does the Frizz even play 8?
                              Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

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                                Does the Frizz even play 8?
                                Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

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                                @crucial Played at 8 against North Harbour a few weeks ago. Don't think he's played there much though.

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                                  I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

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                                    I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

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                                    Darren Nicholson said:

                                    I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

                                    Because he isn’t on the payroll.
                                    Fifita at least deserves a shot.
                                    Not saying Akira doesn’t just that his time hasn’t come yet. They obviously have plans to mature him more before using him. They have had him at enough camps to decide the best plan.

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                                      @crucial Played at 8 against North Harbour a few weeks ago. Don't think he's played there much though.

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                                      Tim said:

                                      @crucial Played at 8 against North Harbour a few weeks ago. Don't think he's played there much though.

                                      Which is why I am wondering why everyone is thinking a newspaper article is true.
                                      Although I reckon Frizz has dibs on the the backup 6 job. Maybe this could be looking forward to the RWC where we may need some versatility in the loosies

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                                        Darren Nicholson said:

                                        I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

                                        Because he isn’t on the payroll.
                                        Fifita at least deserves a shot.
                                        Not saying Akira doesn’t just that his time hasn’t come yet. They obviously have plans to mature him more before using him. They have had him at enough camps to decide the best plan.

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                                        Crucial said:

                                        Darren Nicholson said:

                                        I am bewildered that we select Fafita, and not give an opportunity to A Ioane. Why not at least give him a run off the bench?

                                        Because he isn’t on the payroll.
                                        Fifita at least deserves a shot.
                                        Not saying Akira doesn’t just that his time hasn’t come yet. They obviously have plans to mature him more before using him. They have had him at enough camps to decide the best plan.

                                        Like the fuck selectors know better than the Fern collective. They are wrong, we are right. End of.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Does the Frizz even play 8?
                                          Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

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                                          Crucial said:

                                          Does the Frizz even play 8?
                                          Serious question as I’ve only seen him play 6 or sideline

                                          He's superb on the bench.

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