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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

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    @Canes4life said in Exodus:

    There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

    Didn't know there was a prize for it ....

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    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      @Canes4life said in Exodus:

      There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

      Didn't know there was a prize for it ....

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      @MajorRage there are prizes for everything!!

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

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        @Canes4life said in Exodus:

        There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

        the new Masaga Hungus 🙂

        Masaga was incredible going forward

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        • MajorPomM MajorPom

          @Canes4life said in Exodus:

          There was never any problem with Ben Lam on attack. Too bad he was won of the worst defensive wingers in the country.

          Didn't know there was a prize for it ....

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          Canes4life
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          #1006

          @MajorRage haha how did I even write that. Been a long day.

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          • StargazerS Offline
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            Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

            • Fletcher Smith

            • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

            https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

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            • KiwiwombleK Online
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              #1008

              that name just roles off the tongue

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                No mention of the length of Smith's contract.

                NTT aren't one of the marquee teams but I see they have Marx, Tupou, Laidlaw and Leali'ifano in their squad. With the latter, Smith will have competition for the no.10 jersey unless they form a 10-12 combo.

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                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                  that name just roles off the tongue

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                  @Kiwiwomble said in Exodus:

                  that name just roles off the tongue

                  Feltcher Smurf?

                  It's pretty easy Billy.

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                  • YeetyaahY Online
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                    It's so irritating when Fletcher Smith is headed overseas but smooth brains like Simon Hickey have contracts.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @mikey07 lol that 21 did not want a bar of him.

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                      @mariner4life said in Exodus:

                      @mikey07 lol that 21 did not want a bar of him.

                      Did you see the previous try? Exactly the same defensive technique from 21.
                      Surrender Monkey.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                        • Fletcher Smith

                        • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                        https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

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                        #1013

                        @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                        Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                        • Fletcher Smith

                        • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                        https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                        I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                        He is better than a few who have contracts.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                          Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                          • Fletcher Smith

                          • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                          https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                          I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                          He is better than a few who have contracts.

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                          @Chris said in Exodus:

                          @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                          Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                          • Fletcher Smith

                          • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                          https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                          I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                          He is better than a few who have contracts.

                          Ditto to that. Maybe it is a by-product of all franchises trying to complete squads way too early, at times when a lot of assumptions must be made. I wonder if NZRU will consider setting a date late in NPC after which a certain number of positions must be filled by each franchise. i.e. 3 to 5 positions must be open/unsigned as at the week between NPC semis and finals. That might lead to better options for the best of those players not already signed, with NZRU assisting with information on options. Just a thought... Seems a shame to have overseas players brought in each year when very good players are forced overseas.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                            Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                            • Fletcher Smith

                            • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                            https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                            I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                            He is better than a few who have contracts.

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                            @Chris I could understand if there were better players but to sign Hickey instead of Smith defies belief.

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                              @Chris I could understand if there were better players but to sign Hickey instead of Smith defies belief.

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                              @mikey07 said in Exodus:

                              @Chris I could understand if there were better players but to sign Hickey instead of Smith defies belief.

                              @mikey07 said in Exodus:

                              @Chris I could understand if there were better players but to sign Hickey instead of Smith defies belief.

                              Yeah no sense at must be something more to this one

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                              • A ARHS

                                @Chris said in Exodus:

                                @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                                • Fletcher Smith

                                • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                                https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                                I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                                He is better than a few who have contracts.

                                Ditto to that. Maybe it is a by-product of all franchises trying to complete squads way too early, at times when a lot of assumptions must be made. I wonder if NZRU will consider setting a date late in NPC after which a certain number of positions must be filled by each franchise. i.e. 3 to 5 positions must be open/unsigned as at the week between NPC semis and finals. That might lead to better options for the best of those players not already signed, with NZRU assisting with information on options. Just a thought... Seems a shame to have overseas players brought in each year when very good players are forced overseas.

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                                @ARHS said in Exodus:

                                @Chris said in Exodus:

                                @Stargazer said in Exodus:

                                Signed with NTT Communications Shining Arcs in Japan:

                                • Fletcher Smith

                                • Piri Paraone (former Wellington Lions)

                                https://www.ntt.com/rugby/news/2020/201216.html

                                I don’t understand the Fletcher Smith going overseas
                                He is better than a few who have contracts.

                                Ditto to that. Maybe it is a by-product of all franchises trying to complete squads way too early, at times when a lot of assumptions must be made. I wonder if NZRU will consider setting a date late in NPC after which a certain number of positions must be filled by each franchise. i.e. 3 to 5 positions must be open/unsigned as at the week between NPC semis and finals. That might lead to better options for the best of those players not already signed, with NZRU assisting with information on options. Just a thought... Seems a shame to have overseas players brought in each year when very good players are forced overseas.

                                Maybe a good idea hopefully it would stop this sort of thing happening

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                                  Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                  Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                  Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                  The old system was better.

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                                    I could understand Hickey over F. Smith if he was a good SR player who was also good overseas. But my understanding is he was a bit of a flop in both situations, which means his "experience" doesn't trump talent. Smith can possibly still get better, I very much doubt Hickey will.

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                      Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                      Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                      The old system was better.

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                                      @booboo said in Exodus:

                                      Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                      Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                      Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                      The old system was better.

                                      The old system also had its flaws. Remember MacDonald being forced to move to the Chiefs in 1998? He played poorly that year at 1st 5 and the fans let him know it.

                                      The big problem now is that the franchises have to sign players early to avoid one of the other 4 teams contracting that player before them. This doesn't apply to the established players, but the new young players and those making up positions 30-38 in the squad. I like @ARHS's proposal that a certain number of positions in each squad should remain open until after the NPC is finished to reward form.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @booboo said in Exodus:

                                        Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                        Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                        Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                        The old system was better.

                                        The old system also had its flaws. Remember MacDonald being forced to move to the Chiefs in 1998? He played poorly that year at 1st 5 and the fans let him know it.

                                        The big problem now is that the franchises have to sign players early to avoid one of the other 4 teams contracting that player before them. This doesn't apply to the established players, but the new young players and those making up positions 30-38 in the squad. I like @ARHS's proposal that a certain number of positions in each squad should remain open until after the NPC is finished to reward form.

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                                        @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                        @booboo said in Exodus:

                                        Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                        Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                        Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                        The old system was better.

                                        The old system also had its flaws. Remember MacDonald being forced to move to the Chiefs in 1998? He played poorly that year at 1st 5 and the fans let him know it.

                                        The big problem now is that the franchises have to sign players early to avoid one of the other 4 teams contracting that player before them. This doesn't apply to the established players, but the new young players and those making up positions 30-38 in the squad. I like @ARHS's proposal that a certain number of positions in each squad should remain open until after the NPC is finished to reward form.

                                        Yeah but what positions?

                                        In that case you've got to assume that there is a squad spot open to that specific position.

                                        In MacDonald's case he wasn't good enough (at that time) to be protected by the Crusaders, but instead of missing out in Super Rugby he was drafted to the Chiefs.

                                        At least he was playing as he was one one the in his position(s).

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                          @booboo said in Exodus:

                                          Back in the day Peter Thorburn had the job of ensuring the top 145(?) players in NZ were playing Super Rugby.

                                          Then people whinged about how the franchises could not directly contract their own players.

                                          Now we get players who are better than those contracted missing out.

                                          The old system was better.

                                          The old system also had its flaws. Remember MacDonald being forced to move to the Chiefs in 1998? He played poorly that year at 1st 5 and the fans let him know it.

                                          The big problem now is that the franchises have to sign players early to avoid one of the other 4 teams contracting that player before them. This doesn't apply to the established players, but the new young players and those making up positions 30-38 in the squad. I like @ARHS's proposal that a certain number of positions in each squad should remain open until after the NPC is finished to reward form.

                                          Yeah but what positions?

                                          In that case you've got to assume that there is a squad spot open to that specific position.

                                          In MacDonald's case he wasn't good enough (at that time) to be protected by the Crusaders, but instead of missing out in Super Rugby he was drafted to the Chiefs.

                                          At least he was playing as he was one one the in his position(s).

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                                          @booboo I agree, no system is perfect as the needs for each team will be different. So the status quo then. 😉

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