Exodus
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Long list of players who have gone overseas; most to MLR, so may be coming back for NPC.
Some may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread.
Caleb Makene (Hawke's Bay) - Utah Warriors (MLR)
Isi Manu (Northland) - Mazda Skyactivs Hiroshima (Tope League One)
Jordan Trainor (Auckland) - LA Giltinis (MLR)
Marco Fepulea'i (Auckland) - LA Giltinis (MLR)
Tevita Sole (BOP U19) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
Alex Johnston (Te Puke) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
Mills Sanerivi (Taranaki) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
William Talataina (Auckland/Ponsonby) - Old Glory DC (MLR)
Jason Emery (Manawatū) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Kalolo Tuiloma (Counties M) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Jack Heighton (North Harbour) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Sam Matenga ( Ta$man) - Seattle Seawolves (MLR)
Dennon Robinson-Barltett (Hawke's Bay) - Toronto Arrows (MLR)
Jamie Lane (Auckland) - Utah Warriors (MLR)
Brendon O'Connor (Hawke's Bay) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Will Tucker (Otago) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Nic Mayhew (North Harbour) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Tomas Aoake (North Harbour) - San Diego Legion (MLR)
Joe Walsh (Southland) - San Diego Legion (MLR)
Lolani Faleiva (Hawke's Bay - Toronto Arrows (MLR)
Ed Fidow (Manawatū) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Felix Kalapu (Auckland) - Old Glory (MLR)
Peni Lasaqa (Bay of Plenty) - Old Glory (MLR)
Kyle Stewart (Taranaki) - Old Glory (MLR)@stargazer was chatting to Dan Bowden at North Harbour stadium today about this very subject , not only MLR is taking players but also the Shute Shield Sydney where the game is already semi professional.
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Long list of players who have gone overseas; most to MLR, so may be coming back for NPC.
Some may have already been mentioned earlier in the thread.
Caleb Makene (Hawke's Bay) - Utah Warriors (MLR)
Isi Manu (Northland) - Mazda Skyactivs Hiroshima (Tope League One)
Jordan Trainor (Auckland) - LA Giltinis (MLR)
Marco Fepulea'i (Auckland) - LA Giltinis (MLR)
Tevita Sole (BOP U19) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
Alex Johnston (Te Puke) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
Mills Sanerivi (Taranaki) - NE Free Jacks (MLR)
William Talataina (Auckland/Ponsonby) - Old Glory DC (MLR)
Jason Emery (Manawatū) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Kalolo Tuiloma (Counties M) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Jack Heighton (North Harbour) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Sam Matenga ( Ta$man) - Seattle Seawolves (MLR)
Dennon Robinson-Barltett (Hawke's Bay) - Toronto Arrows (MLR)
Jamie Lane (Auckland) - Utah Warriors (MLR)
Brendon O'Connor (Hawke's Bay) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Will Tucker (Otago) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Nic Mayhew (North Harbour) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Tomas Aoake (North Harbour) - San Diego Legion (MLR)
Joe Walsh (Southland) - San Diego Legion (MLR)
Lolani Faleiva (Hawke's Bay - Toronto Arrows (MLR)
Ed Fidow (Manawatū) - Rugby New York (MLR)
Felix Kalapu (Auckland) - Old Glory (MLR)
Peni Lasaqa (Bay of Plenty) - Old Glory (MLR)
Kyle Stewart (Taranaki) - Old Glory (MLR)Kara Pryor is at New York, Dan Pryor and Matt Moulds at San Diego Legion (although Moulds set to return for NPC)
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Kara Pryor is at New York, Dan Pryor and Matt Moulds at San Diego Legion (although Moulds set to return for NPC)
@taniwharugby Yeah, I know; they signed a longer time ago. I've only listed the signings of the last month or so. There are plenty more Kiwis playing in the MLR.
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@taniwharugby Yeah, I know; they signed a longer time ago. I've only listed the signings of the last month or so. There are plenty more Kiwis playing in the MLR.
@stargazer There must be a good few hundred playing in all of the overseas competitions. I can remember an article over a decade ago which put a figure at 300 and that was mostly Europe and Japan.
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@stargazer There must be a good few hundred playing in all of the overseas competitions. I can remember an article over a decade ago which put a figure at 300 and that was mostly Europe and Japan.
@sbw1 There are over 400 now, with a lot of players going to Japan or North American for the off season, if they miss a super contract. Japan 120+, France 100+, Americas 50 approx, Other Europe 100 approx, Offshore super teams 30+
Numbers in England and Guinness Pro 14 seem to be dropping.
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@sbw1 There are over 400 now, with a lot of players going to Japan or North American for the off season, if they miss a super contract. Japan 120+, France 100+, Americas 50 approx, Other Europe 100 approx, Offshore super teams 30+
Numbers in England and Guinness Pro 14 seem to be dropping.
@arhs Offshore Super sides would mostly be Oz and Fiji, MP now that SA are out. England's rise has surely had a lot to do with the number of Kiwi coaches and players in their leagues, in the past anyway. Kind of seems we are exporting a lot of our rugby depth.
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@arhs Offshore Super sides would mostly be Oz and Fiji, MP now that SA are out. England's rise has surely had a lot to do with the number of Kiwi coaches and players in their leagues, in the past anyway. Kind of seems we are exporting a lot of our rugby depth.
@sbw1 coaches is the big one. The coaching depth at mitre10 is very thin.
It will get worse and worse. We are the Brazil of rugby. When/if america grows out that will be the final nail in the coffin, referring to out Pro league being in the elite tiers.
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@sbw1 There are over 400 now, with a lot of players going to Japan or North American for the off season, if they miss a super contract. Japan 120+, France 100+, Americas 50 approx, Other Europe 100 approx, Offshore super teams 30+
Numbers in England and Guinness Pro 14 seem to be dropping.
@sbw1 There are over 400 now, with a lot of players going to Japan or North American for the off season, if they miss a super contract. Japan 120+, France 100+, Americas 50 approx, Other Europe 100 approx, Offshore super teams 30+
Numbers in England and Guinness Pro 14 seem to be dropping.
Co-incidentally I was scanning through the squad on one of the teams that played earlier today and from the Washington Old Glory team they have Api Naikatini , Danny Tusitala, Kyle Stewart (ex Manawatu), Renata Roberts Te Nana, Peni Lasaqa (BoP), Willie Talataina (Ponsonby and who played a few games for Southand from memory) and even Junior Sau from the Kiwis years ago all in their squad. Then there is Callum Gibbons on their coaching staff as well.
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@bones That was a good read. TKB's uncle Tukere was at Hamilton BHS when I was there. That was the connection for TKB to come to NZ.
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Think here is best?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/he-was-actually-really-angry-that-i-didnt-know-what-id-done-tawera-kerr-barlow-all-blacks-la-rochelle/Really enjoyed it, thanks Bones.
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach (didn't he ever play under Foster?) -
Think here is best?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/he-was-actually-really-angry-that-i-didnt-know-what-id-done-tawera-kerr-barlow-all-blacks-la-rochelle/Really enjoyed it, thanks Bones.
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach (didn't he ever play under Foster?) -
@nostrildamus said in Exodus:
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach
Not sure what's so eyebrow raising? Or are you just using them to take another boring shot at Foster?
@nostrildamus said in Exodus:
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach
Not sure what's so eyebrow raising? Or are you just using them to take another boring shot at Foster?
A1Aaron Smith not mentioned.
A2 guilty as charged. I was really more interested to read how highly he values and mentions Wayne Smith rather than Rennie, which might explain a few recent things overseas. -
@nostrildamus said in Exodus:
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach
Not sure what's so eyebrow raising? Or are you just using them to take another boring shot at Foster?
A1Aaron Smith not mentioned.
A2 guilty as charged. I was really more interested to read how highly he values and mentions Wayne Smith rather than Rennie, which might explain a few recent things overseas.@nostrildamus Did you miss the preceding sentence?
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Think here is best?
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/he-was-actually-really-angry-that-i-didnt-know-what-id-done-tawera-kerr-barlow-all-blacks-la-rochelle/Really enjoyed it, thanks Bones.
Surprised no eyebrows raised who he favours as best 9 or best coach (didn't he ever play under Foster?)@nostrildamus Dupont is the World Player of the Year - it's not a huge leap to call him the best 9 in the world, especially considering TKB plays in France.
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@nostrildamus Dupont is the World Player of the Year - it's not a huge leap to call him the best 9 in the world, especially considering TKB plays in France.
@kiwimurph and Arron Smith is geriatric
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@nostrildamus Dupont is the World Player of the Year - it's not a huge leap to call him the best 9 in the world, especially considering TKB plays in France.
@kiwimurph said in Exodus:
@nostrildamus Dupont is the World Player of the Year - it's not a huge leap to call him the best 9 in the world, especially considering TKB plays in France.
Oh I agree, plus he is a 9/10 in a way we don't seem to have here but just idly pointing out people were calling A Smith the best 9 in the world a few months ago. I think he has competition but yeah they play slightly different roles. This French team really looks like it is getting it together and not just for a game or two every so often.
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