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  • TimT Tim

    https://twitter.com/bethknewman/status/1075474045959696384?s=21

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    @tim said in Exodus 2019:

    https://twitter.com/bethknewman/status/1075474045959696384?s=21

    That’s a big loss for NZ rugby. Hopefully one of Brodie or Sam can make the step up.

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      Steven Lautua has signed on for two more years at Bristol:

      Bristol Bears (@BristolBears) Tweeted:
      📝| We're delighted that @StevenLuatua has chosen to continue his rugby journey at #BristolBears 👌

      What a guy 😍

      Read more ➡️ https://t.co/fNlbKgejuQ https://t.co/NGR0xT2Ae7 https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1078262971988623360?s=17

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      • sparkyS sparky

        Steven Lautua has signed on for two more years at Bristol:

        Bristol Bears (@BristolBears) Tweeted:
        📝| We're delighted that @StevenLuatua has chosen to continue his rugby journey at #BristolBears 👌

        What a guy 😍

        Read more ➡️ https://t.co/fNlbKgejuQ https://t.co/NGR0xT2Ae7 https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1078262971988623360?s=17

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        @sparky Assuming Luatua saw the light as well, he was never serious (really?) about committing to NZR / Blues / coming back to NZ for RWC. At least he has made his choice now.

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        • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

          @sparky Assuming Luatua saw the light as well, he was never serious (really?) about committing to NZR / Blues / coming back to NZ for RWC. At least he has made his choice now.

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          @ShadowTrooper Lautua is something of a cult-figure in Bristol. My guess is that the club gave him an offer he couldn't refuse.

          Bristol Bears (@BristolBears) Tweeted:
          It is time. ✍️

          #Lua2a https://t.co/PH2jYd1OJr https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1078259197924593664?s=17

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Steven Lautua has signed on for two more years at Bristol:

            Bristol Bears (@BristolBears) Tweeted:
            📝| We're delighted that @StevenLuatua has chosen to continue his rugby journey at #BristolBears 👌

            What a guy 😍

            Read more ➡️ https://t.co/fNlbKgejuQ https://t.co/NGR0xT2Ae7 https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1078262971988623360?s=17

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            @sparky said in Exodus 2019:

            Steven Lautua has signed on for two more years at Bristol:

            Bristol Bears (@BristolBears) Tweeted:
            📝| We're delighted that @StevenLuatua has chosen to continue his rugby journey at #BristolBears 👌

            What a guy 😍

            Read more ➡️ https://t.co/fNlbKgejuQ https://t.co/NGR0xT2Ae7 https://twitter.com/BristolBears/status/1078262971988623360?s=17

            @Tim fuck!!

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              Chris Boyd is trying to sign Ryan Crotty and Matt Proctor for Northampton:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/109756346/all-blacks-ryan-crotty-and-matt-proctor-in-sights-of-chris-boyd-at-english-club-northampton

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                Not really Exodus, but Malakai Fekitoa is set to join his mate Lima Sopoaga at Wasps:

                https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/rugby-rumours-transfer-news-leicester-2350857

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                  It's out of thread but I'd like to inform that Luke Braid is leaving Bordeaux and is coming back to NZ for personal reasons.

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                    #212

                    So Crotty maybe not to Northampton, Read not off to France...the pre-RWC rumour mill in full swing

                    Also

                    The All Blacks have traditionally lost senior players after Rugby World Cup campaigns, but the moves to Japan represent a new trend.

                    Not sure it is so much a new trend, just another option now.

                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/109786268/kieran-read-rejects-french-offer-for-stint-in-japan--report

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                      So he wants to be a 'trailblazer' to ruin what got him there in the first place?

                      Been a few articles with Pitutau & Sopoaga all but promoting leaving NZ for the $$$...almost like they are trying to justify it to someone?

                      To some, the black jersey doesnt mean as much to others, good for them if it doesnt, but it gave them a big step up in salary.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109864452/charles-piutau-reveals-his-trailblazing-dream-for-young-new-zealand-rugby-players

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        So he wants to be a 'trailblazer' to ruin what got him there in the first place?

                        Been a few articles with Pitutau & Sopoaga all but promoting leaving NZ for the $$$...almost like they are trying to justify it to someone?

                        To some, the black jersey doesnt mean as much to others, good for them if it doesnt, but it gave them a big step up in salary.

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109864452/charles-piutau-reveals-his-trailblazing-dream-for-young-new-zealand-rugby-players

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                        @taniwharugby I'm really starting to dislike Piutau. He shattered his own RWC dream to take the money and that's his choice, no need to try and convince others to do the same and as you rightly say being an 'AB' has certainly helped him earn the big bucks in Europe.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          So he wants to be a 'trailblazer' to ruin what got him there in the first place?

                          Been a few articles with Pitutau & Sopoaga all but promoting leaving NZ for the $$$...almost like they are trying to justify it to someone?

                          To some, the black jersey doesnt mean as much to others, good for them if it doesnt, but it gave them a big step up in salary.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/109864452/charles-piutau-reveals-his-trailblazing-dream-for-young-new-zealand-rugby-players

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                          @taniwharugby wow, he said you could earn more money overseas.
                          That'll be a new and interesting fact for all rugby players in NZ!

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                          • SiamS Siam

                            @taniwharugby wow, he said you could earn more money overseas.
                            That'll be a new and interesting fact for all rugby players in NZ!

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                            @Siam not just rugby I expect!

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                              The articles wrong anyway. It says

                              Not selected for RWC => headed overseas

                              When in fact

                              Said heading overseas => not selected for RWC

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                                Yeah, nah.

                                So if Piatau pledges his undying loyalty to NZ Rugby in 2015 and reups he gets picked for the World Cup squad? Ask Jane and Dagg who did just that, were in the frame and missed out.

                                The selectors were so locked in on Naholo that they picked him with a broken leg with perfectly good, experienced options available. I don't think there is anyway we can say Piatau would have been picked when they had such a hard on for Waisake that year.

                                Even if picked there is no guarantee they would have seen him as a winger which would mean his "world cup dream" would have been keeping Malakai Fekitoa and Colin Slade company in the stands and having a hit out against Namibia.

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                                  Piutau definitely makes the World Cup squad if he had signed on past the RWC. The way they justified Naholo was basically saying "if we are choosing between two players who are close and one is staying and one is going then we select the one who is staying". If Piutau was staying they would have picked him - NZRU made him a multi year offer and iirc he made every AB squad from his debut in 2013 up until the RWC squad in 2015. He also provided more versatility than Naholo with the ability to cover fullback - not to mention he'd played 17 tests vs what 1 test Naholo had prior to RWC 2015?

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                                    I'm intrigued as to how he's making his name. I never hear anything about him. Interesting how he's a trailblazer...doing pretty much exactly what Evans did - except Evans was much more successful and popular.

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                                      I'm intrigued as to how he's making his name. I never hear anything about him. Interesting how he's a trailblazer...doing pretty much exactly what Evans did - except Evans was much more successful and popular.

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                                      @Bones Well I think he's got one of the highest contracts in the entire league, so he's certainly doing something right!

                                      I think the reason behind this entire article is in the entire article. Quote - "He's well on his way to that and he's determined not to waste his fortune. "We have agents and financial planners and good people around us," Piutau, now 27, said."

                                      He's more or less a business now, and this interview is clearly a setup to help promote the business, it contains all the key points required. He's either very shrewd, or one of his many good people around him is sorting it out. And lets not forgot that the English rugby public loves anything which can show NZ rugby in a poor light.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        I'm intrigued as to how he's making his name. I never hear anything about him. Interesting how he's a trailblazer...doing pretty much exactly what Evans did - except Evans was much more successful and popular.

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                                        @Bones said in Exodus 2019:

                                        I'm intrigued as to how he's making his name. I never hear anything about him. Interesting how he's a trailblazer...doing pretty much exactly what Evans did - except Evans was much more successful and popular.

                                        This. I don't get the hype for Piutau at all. Wasps fans loved him for the bonus year they got when he was left without a SR contract. It was Ulster who signed him to move North in the first instance - and in my view - got the least value from him. They're raving about him at Bristol Bears where Lam has set up an overseas NZ community.

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                                          @Bones said in Exodus 2019:

                                          I'm intrigued as to how he's making his name. I never hear anything about him. Interesting how he's a trailblazer...doing pretty much exactly what Evans did - except Evans was much more successful and popular.

                                          This. I don't get the hype for Piutau at all. Wasps fans loved him for the bonus year they got when he was left without a SR contract. It was Ulster who signed him to move North in the first instance - and in my view - got the least value from him. They're raving about him at Bristol Bears where Lam has set up an overseas NZ community.

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                                          @Derm-McCrum yeah I think as pointed out by MR he's probably most popular to those that are reliant on his income.

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